I hope those guys are alright.
As unfortunate as this is, this will be a good training video on why to heel a ladder.
I hope these guys are okay.
I agree on footing the ladder. That is a basic entry level firefighter taught skill.
There however is no way to use a roof ladder from the position they set up in. They would have had to go to the B side and place the ladder in between the houses to have a peak to place the roof ladder over.
That's one of those videos that needs to be shown to rookies. It's important to teach the basics, but it's also effective to show what can happen if you don't do something properly. That would've been a great spot to park a ladder truck if they had one. Dang, that video made me cringe!
I literally said outloud to myself seeing him go up the ladder, even before the second started up was, "Where the frak is he going?"
Then the second clip to where both are near the top, the roof ladder (unused) at the side and realizing they were on a slick driveway with no one butting the ladder, my thoughts turned to "this can't be good".
Hope the brothers are okay. Any follow-up?
I don't want to Monday morning QB this.. ESP with my relatively limited experience.. But is there any benefit to venting that roof? I mean could there be a void space? There's an aweful lot of people who saw the ladder not being footed.. I mean..
I just hope the brothers are ok.. ESP the 1 who looked like got hit with the saw.
I really try to not MMQB, but if there ever was a video of WHEN NOT to do vertical ventilation and HOW NOT to do it....this is it.
So they weren't attempting to draw the fire to that area over the garage? I figured they were helping the homeowner reduce his debris removal costs.:confused:
DevilDog 4 calls it "buffonery"... trust me, this happens all over the country, Canada, Mexico, South America, Europe, Asia and every point in between.
It comes to one word... training.
Firefighters get "insulted" when we go "back to the basics " for drills. Seeing videos like this only reinforces the need for visiting the basics.
So much fail here even if the ladder sliding out was not a part of this. I hope those two are ok, that was a pretty long fall.
p.s. In my opinion, on a public forum critiquing a video is a learning process, not Monday morning quarterbacking. I don't know when discussing this stuff became taboo.
anyone notice the one handed saw work ?
why even put yourself in a dangerous position like that to vent a garage attached to a home completely engulfed in flames?
and the horizontal vent video was an utter disgrace! **** like that happens all the time!