I am not downplaying the pain and suffering of those that lost loved ones, but they are no more significant than the mugging victim shot and killed over his wallet, or the rape victim murdered by an armed assailant.
The last AWB didn't stop Klebold and Harris from using weapons listed specifically, by name, in that ban. Lanza stole the weapons he used. William Spangler obtained his weapons illegally. Thomas White stole his fathers gun, a gun his father possessed illegally as a convicted felon. Timothy McVeigh violated how many laws in building the bombs that destroyed the Murrah building?
The Clinton-era AWB had no discernable effect, per the people that Feinstein says studied it and stated otherwise (she only cites the parts she wants, as if that's surprising). Chicago's weapons restrictions have had little effect, especially considering 96% of homicides in that city are by people with a prior history and 80% are gang-related.
Drinking and driving laws don't keep drunk drivers off the road. Drug laws don't keep people from getting drugs. Homicide laws don't keep people from killing others, regardless of the tool used. Arson laws don't keep people from setting fires, nor from using fire to kill others.
Aside from that, an AWB would have had zero effect on the shooting in Tuscon or Virginia Tech.
Why is it you gun-control folks cannot wrap around your head the fact that criminals don't give a rats arse about the law? They don't care that these weapons are illegal, they are going to obtain them anyway.
We have numerous laws already on the books that aren't enforced. What in the world makes you think that anyone other than the law-abiding citizen is going to follow these new laws? Sane, rational, law-abiding citizens don't commmit these atrocities. The mentally ill and criminals do, and they don't give a rip about what law gets passed.
Here's a concept that I guarantee will work. Get the guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, gang members, and criminals.
I'm not an advocate for putting more guns in the hands of people, that's asking for problems. There are a ton of law-abiding citizens that have no business with a gun in their hand in public. It's asking for the wrong person to get shot. I actually won a free lunch by proving this to someone who said they've never seen where an innocent bystander was wounded by a CCW permit-holder when trying to prevent a crime. It has happened and I have no doubt it will happen again.
What I'm advocating, as well as many opposed to this new round of gun control measures, is getting the guns out of the hands of people who aren't supposed to have them, or shouldn't have them and leaving the law-abiding gun owners alone.
What I want is someone to show me evidence this new gun control measure is going to stop these killings. How is it going to keep these mentally ill people from using another tool? How is it going to keep guns out of the hands of criminals?
They can't do it. The statistics show its not going to happen, but for some reason the gun control crowd has this delusion that these people are suddenly going to actually abide by the law. Its a fantasy, at best.
I do believe that I've heard this whole argument before! :eek::p:D
Firearms are designed to accurately propel a projectile. They have multiple purposes and for the majority in civilian use that purpose isn't killing. Of those used for that purpose, the vast majority are used to kill game.
If you object to that you'd better be vegan...
In response to my letter to my Congressman concerning the renewed attack on our 2nd Amendment rights. It sums up my thoughts to a "T" and I thought that I would share it with you guys.
Mark Meadows Eleventh District, North Carolina
1516 Longworth Office Building (202) 225-6401
January 17, 2013
Dear Mr. :
Thank you for contacting my office regarding your concerns over the possibility of increased gun regulation in light of the recent tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut. Your views are very important, and I appreciate you taking the time to share them with me.
When I heard about the tragedy that took place in Connecticut on December 14, 2012, I was shocked and deeply saddened over this senseless attack on innocent children, teachers and school administrators. As a father, I cannot begin to imagine the horror that those families are going through, as they grieve the loss of their children and loved ones. My thoughts and prayers are with all of them during this difficult time.
Like most Americans, I am horrified by these crimes. The tragedy in Newtown has, once again, brought the debate over our Second Amendment rights to the forefront and has renewed assertions that more restrictive guns laws would have prevented the tragedy in Newtown and other violent crimes.
As a strong defender of the Second Amendment, I will always fight to secure the right of law-abiding citizens to purchase and bear personal firearms. I believe that the best way to prevent acts of violence is to resolutely enforce our criminal laws and to give our citizens proper guidance and training so that they are familiar with firearms and prepared to defend themselves should the need arise. I am working hard with local school officials and sheriff’s departments to figure out what additional measures we can take to ensure that our schools are as safe as possible.
The bottom line is that criminals and individuals who intend to do harm to others are not deterred by additional rules and regulations prohibiting gun ownership. Restricting the ability of law-abiding citizens to defend themselves and their families against harm by enacting strict gun-control laws would only further expose the innocent to violent crime.
Again, thank you for contacting my office. Your feedback and suggestions are always welcome. It is an honor to serve as your United States Congressman. If you have not done so already, please visit my website – http://www.meadows.house.gov/ – and sign up for my eNewsletter.
Member of Congress
If they don't have that particular gun in the first place....it can't be stolen, it can't be used to commit a crime, it can't be misused.
And that one, miniscule percentage, rare occurrence act....has been stopped.
Or....we can sit here and just hope it doesn't happen again.
You sound like a textbook Socialist. Do you economic theories mirror yours of gun control?
Punish the law abiding citizen because as far as you are concerned it's ok for criminals to break the law.
Again, quit speaking out from under your mother's skirt and show me any proof that bans or restrictions have been successful from preventing the criminal element from being just that, criminal. It's been shown on here numerous times that knives, and even hands are used in more murders. You honestly believe that will all suddenly stop because guns are no longer available?
Go and check England and Australia's crime rate since their gun bans. Let us know what you find.
There's no way to eliminate the firearms in a fashion that will drastically reduce crimes and murders committed with them. The deeper issue needs to be addressed. Harsher penalties for gun crimes, no lax or parole for gun crimes, re-evaluate the mental health system, and educate law abiding citizens on the benefits of carrying a firearm, instead of scaring them into thinking they are evil.
I do love the naivity of those who think a gun ban is going to do anything. It's been proven- gun bans do not stop gun violence.
We have gun laws running out of our ears, yet criminals still get them. Hell, our gov't gives them to the criminals at times (Fast and Furious)! How exactly is the gov't going to keep guns from coming into the country from Mexico, Canada, or anywhere else for that matter. They can't even keep illegal immigrants and drugs out of our borders.
There are a lot of people who even hunt small game with pistols.
Not that it matters, as the SCOTUS and other federal courts have ruled handguns are protected by the Second Amendment. Illinois just learned that little lesson.
Yup, you guys are right. We need more guns. Heck, if everyone had one...there'd be no killings.
Funny how little things like that get ignored. Illinois has no concealed carry and Chicago had and still has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation and yet murders have been on the rise. How can that be? The anti-gunners say if we limit the amount of guns law abiing citizens can have gun crime and murders will go down. It seems that isn't always so.
I can't wait to see how you spin this one Bones...By the way, my statistics come right from the FBI. So I can prove what I am saying here.
Catch covered it pretty well in his last post. Law abiding citizens don't use they're firearms for killings. And once they do, or contribute their firearms to such a heinous act, they are no longer law abiding citizens. And if you think that law abiding citizens willfully buying and handing over firearms to criminals is the problem, you're mistaken. Theft, black market sales, and like I stated before and Catch stated, if you're a Mexican drug cartel the US Gov. will hand you weapons. There's always going to be intentional murders and killings, with guns, regardless of the laws that are passed.
It's time to stop this ridiculousness, and get to the root of the issue. Mental health issues, and quite honestly, the **** poor parenting style that this society has adopted. (And that's coming from someone who grew up in the "**** poor parenting" age. Fortunately, I had parents (or a parent, could be debated lol) that knew how to keep me in line.
And again, looking at the FBI statistics, even with guns in the hands of essentially everyone, violent crime and gun related deaths are down over the last 20 years, so the guns obviously aren't the problem.