They both fire .30 cal. rounds with 150 gr bullets. They can both knock down a deer sized animal at 300 yards. The only thing that military ball ammo doesn't do as well is expand since by treaty the militaries across the world agreed to only use full metal jacketed rounds.
.30-06? No problem. 7.62x39? Problem. Not even a close comparison. Could you hunt deer with a 7.62x39 round? In a pinch and at close range, yeah. At 300 yards you'd better be God's gift to marksmen and shoot only deer with very thin skin.Quote:
They can both knock down a deer sized animal at 300 yards.
More accurately, a tiny fraction of people with guns kill people. The vast majority of people with guns don't kill anyone.Quote:
Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.
Overwhelming urge to possess numerous wannabe GI Joe guns = paranoid schizophrenia or small penis... or both.
And there are other countries with high gun ownership that don't have the issues with violence that we have in this country. That indicates that private gun ownership isn't the cause.Quote:
However, other countries allow gun ownership and don't have the problems of tiny fractions committing mass murder.
Frankly shooting is one of MY HOBBIES. I find target shooting and plinking very relaxing because in order to do it right you have to focus on that alone. The type of firearm I choose to do my entirely legal hobby with is really no ones business and your simplistic and insulting inference says more about you than it does about the millions of law abiding gun owners in this country,
In the mid 1960's to early 1970's.. there was a revolution in mental health care.. and not a good one.
The liberals stated that it was unfair to "warehouse" people with mental illness, that they should be "mainstreamed" to beome a productve part of society....
The conservatives thought that the funding mental hospitals was becoming way too expensive....
So.... in the true "spirit" of bipartisanship, the mental hospitals, where those who resided there had their meds, 3 hots and a cot were were closed and the patients were released into society.... creating the homeless problem that now costs us millions of dollars in shelters, ER visits and such... far more than keeping the institutions open.
The closing of these institutions also made it far more difficult to get people help with their issues in the beginning stages as opposed to now, where a complete meltdown results in mass murder shootings, etc. etc. etc.
To reopen many of these mental hospitals will cost a small fortune as they need to be brought up to code in order to reopen.
My FD used to respond to all calls that are referred to as a "Section 12"; aka involuntary committal.
Our local hospital has a psych ward, but treatment options are limited due to the "bean counters".. once the beans are gone, the people a released back onto the street, where the cycle starts all over again. The PD responds with the ambulance now, we get sent if the patient is violent or threatening violence.
For your enjoyment.
The Christmas Truce
Okay, if this doesn't make you chuckle, put a tag on your toe.
Never been in combat. But I totally understand the black humor one might have in those circumstances.Quote:
The proximity of the enemies also allowed men to shout out to their opponents or stick up signs on wooden boards. After a particularly heavy barrage of missiles or bullets, the soldiers might shout out “Missed” or “Left a bit”. (1) This black humour was to be the start of a ‘conversation’ between troops that would hasten the onset of a Christmas truce.
Funny how those that enjoy the 1st amendment without reserve are the first to bastardize the 2nd.
Sadly people just don't seem to be able to get along with people who are different than them.
So if you want to make comparisons don't look at semi socialist nations where the majority come from the same background. They have taken care of many of the social ills behind mass killings (better care of their poor and mentally ill) and don't have nearly as many people with different thoughts.
They are not free of this kind of thing either, look at the guy in Scandanavia early this year (or was it late last year), dozens of people killed, mostly children in a nation with quite strict gun control compared to the US.
Something is going on beyond gun ownership. Focusing on a narrow group of guns will not solve anything if it doesn't take the social issues into account.
For one thing most politicians don't know enough about guns to make any meaningful guns laws, but mostly as you said yourself, the people being shot at don't care if it is a .22 long rifle, a 5.56mm "assault rifle" or a .30-30 deer rifle. They are mostly concerned that they are being shot at and would dearly like it to stop. Banning all guns is not even an option, and short of a complete ban, no ugly gun law will keep guns away from crazies. So the best thing would be looking to the causes because its not the guns, it is the crazy people who are getting guns. Most gun owners are pretty willing to discuss means to limit crazies from getting guns, they just don't want to have their rights infringed in the name of making it harder for crazies to get guns, particularly when it is already supposed to be difficult for them to do so under existing law.
God Bless the children, the adults, and the families and friends of those that were murdered. Christmas for all involved, is now a nightmare.
I for one, am against any kind of gun control. Whether it be the type of weapon, or how many rounds it holds in the mag. It really doesn't matter. What matters is, is two fold....
1. Mental health facilities have been being shut down from the local level to the State level for the last 10 or more years. Even the private facilities have had to shut down because of no private or public funding's. This is bad, really bad. If they can't be housed and medicated, then they are out there, running in the streets.
2. The media... probably tied to number 1. Everybody wants their 15 minutes of fame. How do you do that?? Get mad at your teacher, parent, sibling, the bully that beats you up, etc. Go on a shooting spree, and shoot the most innocent victims you can. While the media doesn't try to glorify the F*Tard, it does.
How to fix it, is extremely complicated. One way to do it, or a good start, would be to drug test all those on welfare. Have them tested twice a month for drugs, unannounced. You have 24 hours to be at location Z for a drug screening. If you fail, your dropped from welfare. Then take that money and re-institute it to a national mental health care system. If Obama-Care was so perfect, then this wouldn't be an issue.
I don't have an answer or solution to the mass killings of civilians or innocent people. If I did, I'd run for office. But I do know, regulating guns, weapons, what have you, is NOT going to eliminate the problem.
Hope you all had a very, Merry Christmas with your families.
How anyone could support stricter gun control laws from the same government who willingly allowed countless numbers of ACTUAL assault weapons to fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels I will never know.
And why do I need "wanna be GI Joe guns" you say? Because I said so. Unless I do something illegal with them that is all the answer you need.