An educational institution isn't that type of setting. Those buildings have numerous rooms and hallways that would allow the victims to duck around corners and into other rooms getting away from from the direction of fire. This is very helpful until someone invents a bullet that can go around corners.
So. Give me concrete examples. Here is a hint, look between 1994 and 2004 when the limits were previously in place. I think you'll have a hard time. Even the FBI has stated that the limit had done nothing to reduce gun violence.
Where are those several times? You have yet to post a single link to any evidence that magazine limitations have been successful.Quote:
I cited why I support magazine limitation with concrete examples several times. Feel free to reread my posts. BTW, there is enough research that shows the majority of gun battles in your type of scenario involves less than 10 rounds.
If there is plenty of research, link it so I can read it.
Here, I posted the Google search for your reading and research pleasure. Just at first glance, Minnesota, California, and God forbid, Louisiana have only yearly range requal. requirements. Let me know what you find.Quote:
I only have your word for it. Unless I have documentation (as required by POST), that is your claim that is currently unsubstantiated.
So again, how do you justify a limit that is provable ineffective at its stated goal?
Perhaps he can call Feinstein.. she might know. I think it has something to do with the "Shoulder thing that goes up".
Please Google Jared Loughner and Kip Kinkel. I'm not doing your research for you.
As far as a link, THIS one should help answer your questions.
Kinkle's spree occurred during the original AWB which included 10 round limits. How'd that work out? Also kinkle was subdued by multiple kids from multiple directions. The kid in front of him was shot when he switched to his handgun. This incident is more indicative of the mental health and armed resistance aspects of countering violence.
I will tell you that if I'm in a HD situation the last thing I'd rely on is statistics. If the average is 8 then there is a large percentage that needed more than 10.
Kip Kinkel-50 rounds, he fired 50 rounds before being disarmed, and he still managed to draw a handgun and get a round off. Oh, yes, I can see where this is a poster boy argument for magazine restrictions. Let me add one of your favorites: What if. What if that 1 round stopped the person attempting the disarm? Of course this being in a school where the only ones having a gun are the bad guys...
I agree that in both cases luck was involved. I could say that about any scenario. I'm willing to accept it that as a possible outcome in every instance. Those with differing opinions claim it is not a viable scenario despite real life instances where exactly that happened.
If the belief that a small magazine won't matter because of the ability to change rapidly, then there should be no problem with setting that as a limit.
You're allowed to believe anything you want but even the data you've provided doesn't defend that belief.
I thought this article was well done. I'm sure it will be dismissed as liberal claptrap.
Your Brain in a Shootout: Fear and Flawed Instincts
I also don't think it would be the same in a school scenario. I wouldn't expect teachers to rush in like cops. But they could provide armed defense in place.Quote:
Meli, who has a concealed carry permit, positioned himself behind a pillar.
"As I was going down to pull, I saw someone in the back of the Charlotte move, and I knew if I fired and missed, I could hit them," he said.