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    I just got a letter from Sonoma-Lake-Napa for the first, pretty short notice. I havent heard from Santa Clara, NEU, or TCU yet. I heard that TCU didn't have very many applicants (compared to most units), so hopefully they interview.

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    Shu already hired most their guys

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    I got a letter saying I didn't score high enough on my app from Sonoma-Lake-Napa 75 points. Even though I have my SFM firefighter1 and SFM firefighter2. Iv been volunteering with CalFire/County fire for more than 2 years. Are you guys medics who got interview with Sonoma-Lake-Napa? I just interviewed with Siskiyou yesterday and ranked a 1 90% How was your experience with Siskiyou? I have Tehama Glenn tomorrow. Any feedback from Tehama?

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    So I just scored Rank 1 with SKU. It was my first CAL Fire interview. What are my chances of realistically getting a conditional job offer? Does anyone know how many people that unit are looking to pick up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam4hire View Post
    So I just scored Rank 1 with SKU. It was my first CAL Fire interview. What are my chances of realistically getting a conditional job offer? Does anyone know how many people that unit are looking to pick up?
    What was your score? Percent?

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    I scored 90%

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCCF_LPFR View Post
    I got a letter saying I didn't score high enough on my app from Sonoma-Lake-Napa 75 points. Even though I have my SFM firefighter1 and SFM firefighter2. Iv been volunteering with CalFire/County fire for more than 2 years. Are you guys medics who got interview with Sonoma-Lake-Napa? I just interviewed with Siskiyou yesterday and ranked a 1 90% How was your experience with Siskiyou? I have Tehama Glenn tomorrow. Any feedback from Tehama?
    Not sure what my score was to be a "75 or higher" but I have all my cert- minus medic- I have my degree in fire tech, explorer time, reserve experience, 1 season as a ff w/cal fire, paid call ff experience and volunteer EMT experience. A buddy of mine (also a PCF) received an interview with 1 season of experience with USFS and FF1 & EMT I'm not sure he had his 67 hr cert either. I guess experience is what gets you big points. Never underestimate what you have cause every little point helps AND ironically (I was just told this yesterday) explorer experience gets you huge points I kept that out on a few of my apps because I ran out of room. Oh and congrats on the rank 1 GO OUT AND POLITIC, I learned the hard way that a unit can pick you up from any of the upper 3 ranks I was bypassed the year before I was hired ( I was 1 of maybe 7 with a rank 1) by a rank 3 because she went out and spoke with 90% of the captains. Don't give up and pass that resume of yours out like candy!

    Also heard back from Butte today ... interview is the 12th see you guys there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCCF_LPFR View Post
    I got a letter saying I didn't score high enough on my app from Sonoma-Lake-Napa 75 points. Even though I have my SFM firefighter1 and SFM firefighter2. Iv been volunteering with CalFire/County fire for more than 2 years. Are you guys medics who got interview with Sonoma-Lake-Napa? I just interviewed with Siskiyou yesterday and ranked a 1 90% How was your experience with Siskiyou? I have Tehama Glenn tomorrow. Any feedback from Tehama?
    I've applied with Sonoma-Lake-Napa 5 times and this is my first interview. I'm not a medic but have everything else they were asking for except prior Cal Fire experience. A few things that could have helped me are FF2, Fire Investigation 1A &1B, A.S. in Fire Technology, and 5 classes away from my B.A. in Fire Prevention. Also have 2 years volunteer experience and 5 years as an Intern.
    Irronically I have recieved my worst scores ever in my 2 interviews this year, compared to past years when I didnt have as many certs.
    So maybe it all just depends on who's grading your app?
    Last edited by goffaj; 02-28-2013 at 04:27 AM.

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    Where did you interview? And what did you rank?

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    I got a letter today from Sonoma Lake Napa and i didnt get a 75. I have my FF1, Emt, 15 other certs including Hazmat Fro, confined Space Awareness, CAL FIRE Basic Wildland 69 hr cert, as well as, volunteer experience with 3 departments including my current one with CAL FIRE Nevada Yuba Placer. I also have my AS degree in Fire Tech and a couple classes away from my BS in Fire Science. So I have no clue what they were looking for.

    I tested with SKU and got a 90% ( a 9.0), and Tehama Glen yesterday and got a 8.3.

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    Yea sounds about the same with me! Iv got all those plus more but no degree, close but no cigar yet. FF1, FF2, confined space rescue tech, driver operator, S-212, command 1A. 35 certs with over 2 years volunteering with county fire. I got a 90% in Siskiyou also and a 8.5 in Tehama. It seemed like Tehama was grading tougher. They also gave me two questions I never heard so I was thrown off a bit! I can't wait to interview with CZU and see some familiar faces and not have a long drive

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    I don't work for Calfire, but I wouldn't be surprised if an issue that effects us, is an issue for them as well. Firefighters don't rate applications, human resources people who wouldn't know a Pulaski from a chain saw do. As a result some people don't rank as highly as a firefighter would think they should. This also explains some of the oddities such as rating high enough for an interview in one unit, but not another because a different HR person rated your application.

    My advice to people is to write their application / resume as though their mother (assuming she isn't a firefighter) was going to rate it. Use small words, spell things out and speak (write) slowly avoiding technical jargon. That Hazmat FRO may not get counted as Hazmat First Responder Operations costing you the points for that qualification.

    Seasonal wildland positions are getting very competitive. Not as bad as the city jobs but I'm seeing some really well trained people who would have really stood out 5 or 10 years ago applying and not getting a job, because there are many others just like them. Getting your face out there is absolutely essential, make sure you have solid supervisor references and look at what your resume says. When I look at a resume I kind of make up a little story in my head, look at yours and see what it might tell a captain reading it. Does it still show a drive to get hired, or could someone read it and think you got the basics and decided to kick back. Does it look like you really want the job you are applying for, or maybe it suggest this job is just a stepping stone for the one I really want.

    You are all applying to a primarily wildland agency. Does your list of training and certs show an even balance or do you have a ton of structure stuff and just the minimum wildland?

    Just some things to think about, there are way to many moving parts in the hiring system to say exactly why someone ranks the way they did.

    Good luck
    Last edited by Here and there; 03-01-2013 at 02:16 AM.

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    All my certificates and resume show a balance of wildland and structure. I have Big city volunteer experience ( Sacramento City Reserves) little city ( Auburn City Fire) and then Placer County Fire ( CAL FIRE Contract county). I have 12 wildland certs and 10 structure certs. During my interview I tried to paint a picture for the interviewers by pretending they have no idea about anything fire related.

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    For the most part all those certs don't get scored in your application, except the standard cpr, emt, haz mat fro and confined space, and having your degree only gets you 5 points... 4 yr gets you -10, I was told once before (years ago) that they grade the way you word your job description, I'm not sure if that's true or if they still do it but if you go into detail on how you fight structure fires and use suppression tactics and go on veg fires ect --you're only going to get 1 point, there is limited space so be careful what you include and try not to be repetitive, try to think about how you would answer your interview question when they ask you "what are the roles of a firefighter", hopefully you say more than just fighting fire also I've learned from being too persistent with certs, some captains can tell when you're a "cert chaser" - try to focus on your degree it shows your dedication to what you do vs 30 certs, remember a degree shows someone you are willing to plan things out and attend classes on a regular basis for an extend period of time, a lot of certs only require a few days, but like it was mentioned above try to maintain an equal balance in all areas. If you volunteer is it just for a fire department(s)? or do you volunteer as an EMT or for the Boys and Girls club? at a church? As firefighters we do more than just fight fires, we are the face of the department and we are often out being liaisons to the public on behalf of the department....
    I'm rambling but anyways, communication is key! If you have all of that experience and still don't have enough points it may mean you just need to reword what you have under your job description.

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    yeah I have noticed that. I have my AS degree and am working on my BS in Fire Science. They all told me its how you word the answers pretty much.

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    How are everyone's interviews going??

    - Side note just received a letter from sonoma lake napa they will be offering jobs sometime next week for the coming season, GOODLUCK everyone!

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    I have recieved rank 1 for 3 units. And I have two interviews tomorrow. one in mendocino at 820 am and 1 for my unit ( Nevada Yuba Placer) at 4. So its going to be a busy day for sure.

    How about you?

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    Rank 1 at one unit and rank 2 at another.

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    so far Ive ranked a 2 in 3 units and a 1 in one unit, I've got Santa Clara, and Fresno Kings left... anyone else interviewing for santa clara ?

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    negative. What unit did you get rank 1 in? some of the northern units already did there hiring from what I was told ( Siskiyou, tehama glen, shasta, amador el dorado)

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    Siskiyou already hired? I thought they were going to be a little later since they have a late fire season.

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    That's what I was told by a Captain of mine. His brother is one of the BC's in Siskiyou and they hired there people. Same with a couple of other units. I ranked #1 with Siskiyou but haven't heard anything. And I did station visits. Oh well.

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    I ended up with all 2's that I know of, wasn't told from a few units. I tried to do station visits before and after interviews but it looks like I struck out.
    I also applied to all the USFS locations in CA, but never heard back from any- was really hoping to catch on somewhere this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goffaj View Post
    I ended up with all 2's that I know of, wasn't told from a few units. I tried to do station visits before and after interviews but it looks like I struck out.
    I also applied to all the USFS locations in CA, but never heard back from any- was really hoping to catch on somewhere this summer.
    The USFS hiring changed to a new system this year. I think it will be a good change in the future, but this time around was a major cluster while the bugs get worked out. We saw huge increases in applicants compared to past years which also put a strain on the system. It wasn't a good year to try and get a foot on the door either. I know on my forest there are far fewer vacancies than I've seen in many years, and talking with captains on other forests it is the same for many of them.

    The Forest Service in California is well into their hiring for the summer. Most of the hiring on my forest is done, but I am still getting some reference checks from other forests so there must be some still in the process.

    The Forest Service is just starting the career hiring for California though so there is potential for a secondary wave of seasonal hiring next month as positions get filled possibly creating additional seasonal vacancies. Some of the oher regions are just wrapping up their career hiring which also may have created some new vacancies.

    If you haven't been offered a job with the Forest Service in California yet, the odds are not great, but I wouldn't quit knocking on doors just yet. A fair amount of late hiring gets done in April-June as people get other offers, or quit for other reasons.

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    Amadore already hired? that was fast, I ended up ranking 1's (?) in 3 units... I say that with a question because two of the units didn't "rank" people but we were scored according to a ranking system and I made sure to ask how I did before leaving (1-10, ten being a well thought out and answered question). FKU actually let us know our rank at the end of the interview and gave us a critique which was nice. My first 3 interviews however I ranked a 2 so we'll see and it definitely goes to show the more you practice the better you get. Lets all have some fun now and politic! ... Anyone still have any interviews left?

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