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    Hello,
    I have done a lot of searching on the internet and these forums for master's programs in emergency mgmt/safety/fire administration and have come across good info on master's programs, but not much as it is a relatively new field. I am pretty settled on Columbia Southern University, but am looking for any other input fellow members have. I am also looking at APU, but CSU definitely has the edge over them, esp with national accrediation being much more widely accepted these days. I prefer not to take any entrance tests (i.e. gre), but am willing to consider any input.
    My bachelor's is in public administration and I have considered an MPA, but I have a much better chance of getting tuition reimbursement through my employer with a degree more specific to my current job (firefighter/paramedic).
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    Check Grand Canyon

    Also check Texas am commerce to see if they have a masters ;;

    http://www.wtamu.edu/academics/emerg...n-program.aspx







    Also heard this is possibly reduced tuition and open to government employees , not sure if online??

    http://www.nps.edu/Academics/Admissi...s/Masters.html



    NFA EFO program it is free!!!!!!!

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    Thanks for the info, I will check them out. I looked at the EFO, and may do it in the future, but as stated on their website "Firefighters, Firefighter Paramedics, Engineers, Drivers or Chauffeurs will not be considered as eligible in meeting the EFOP Service Requirement."

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    APU would be a better bet based solely on accreditation alone. National accreditation is not generally "as good" as a regional accreditation. I personally would stay away from nationally accredited schools unless you are strictly looking for the knowledge and maybe points/pay in your department. If you are looking to possibly use the degree outside the fire service, in another department, or the use it for further education, look for a regional school. Just my 2 cents from my personal research on the same topic and MPA search.

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    Thanks 53fireman. That was a sticking point, but I am about over it as my current employer specifically lists natl accreditation as acceptable, as do all federal agencies. CSU is also partnered with an amazing array of companies, such as Delta Airlines, and a lot of fire and sheriff depts. I actually had trouble finding anywhere that did not accept natl accreditation, and I believe that should only continue in the future. http://www.columbiasouthern.edu/Part...arningPartners

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire49 View Post
    Check Grand Canyon
    I like the program Grand Canyon has called the Master of Science in Leadership with an Emphasis in Disaster Preparedness and Executive Fire Leadership. Very expensive school though...a single class would be more than my $2,000/yr tuition reimbursement. do you have any experience with them?

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    A few of our people have or are going through and have heard nothing bad

    You might call Nfa I know they change up things occasionally, they may let you in

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    Also the great state of Kentucky

    Call and see what programs they have

    http://safetymanagement.eku.edu/

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    I go with OSU (Oklahoma State University). It all depends on what you look for. Mi dept is a learning partner and mu current Captain is working on a MPA from CSU. To me, OSU FEMP is one of the best options available. But again, considering the benefits from CSU ($$, among others) that maybe your route.

    Here is OSU's website http://femp.okstate.edu/

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    My department only recognizes Regionally Accredited schools for promotion and also for annual bonuses. I was thinking American Military University based on the price. 11,000 isn't bad for a masters, all things considered.

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    Philfirerescue, if you have any questions about American Military University's programs let me know. I did my undergrad at AMU, and am doing my masters at AMU in Emergency and Disaster Management.

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    B_jackson, I tried to PM you but here are my questions:

    How do you like the AMU? How is the workload for the masters, how many classes can you take at once? Would you recommend going there?

    Those are all the questions I can come off, off the top of my head right now.

    Everyone: Enjoy your 4th of July, stay safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philfirerescue View Post
    B_jackson, I tried to PM you but here are my questions:

    How do you like the AMU? How is the workload for the masters, how many classes can you take at once? Would you recommend going there?

    Those are all the questions I can come off, off the top of my head right now.

    Everyone: Enjoy your 4th of July, stay safe.
    Sorry, I had PMs turned off.

    I love AMU. My wife actually used completed her masters there as well. One of the things I really liked about the school is that all of the professors are working professionals in the field that they teach. The course information is constantly being updated to ensure the latest and greatest information is being taught. My wife and I both took two classes every 8 weeks. This makes it possible to finish the program in just over a year. The standard is one class every 8 weeks, making the program about two years. While an undergrad student at AMU, I took 5 classes every 8 weeks for a while.

    Also regional accreditation is the accreditation you should be looking for in a school. National accreditation is considered the lesser of the two, and is not accepted by the federal government. Not looking to start a debate on the issue, but as an example all state school U of Iowa, U of California, U of etc are regionally accredited not nationally accredited.

    I looked at a number of other schools and found myself back at AMU. What program would you take at CSU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by b_jackson View Post
    National accreditation is considered the lesser of the two, and is not accepted by the federal government.
    while I won't dispute the advantages of regional accreditation, it is absolutely incorrect that the feds do not recognize and accept nationally accredited degrees. I actually found out about columbia southern university by a published list from fema (can't find it now but a similar one is at: http://www.training.fema.gov/emiweb/...EMMasterLevel/ )
    for more proof, the US Office of Personnel Management (http://www.opm.gov/) who makes these kind of policies states that "Accredited Education is education above the high school level completed in a U.S. college, university, or other educational institution that has been accredited by one of the accrediting agencies or associations recognized by the Secretary, U.S. Department of Education." (http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-overs...neral-Policies)
    the US DoE lists the recognized accrediting agencies at this link, which includes the DETC (which columbia southern and most other nationally accredited schools use). http://www2.ed.gov/admins/finaid/acc...ation_pg6.html
    http://www.columbiasouthern.edu/About-CSU/Accreditation
    so yes, the feds absolutely recognize and accept nationally accredited programs. my dept's policy mirrors the feds so they also accept it.

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    Reebok, I stand corrected.
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