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    Thoughts and prayers go out to the people of Boston, the Boston Fire and Police Departments, Boston EMS, Mass State Police and all those who were at the scene of the explosions.

    The perpetrators of this heinous act are @#$%^! cowards and will be caught.
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    This makes me want to vomit. I can't leave and help, I can't do anything.. And the worst part about this is that if they catch a person, it will take 5 years to put them on trial, or if al qeida claims responsibility they will just continue to win hearts and minds in Afghanistan..

    This wasn't some clown.. Somebody smart, somebody who knows tactics.. Secondary devices to kill those who scatter.. Planting devices at the finish line to inflict maximum damage..

    I wish there was something that I can do.


    God bless everyone involved.

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    Thought go out to everyone affected.

    I hope they catch the ****ers who did this quick, and they get what they deserve just as quick.
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    Horrible. Prayers withall involved and families. Random thoughts follow.

    The stories of civilians using belts as tourniquets and such... wow, shows that we as Americans are brave and have heart. **** heads like this will never win.

    We are lucky as Americans. This is the type of incidents that plauged Europe through the 80's weekly. People will hate us for our freedom, it is that simple.

    Think it will turn out to be domestic terroism. Not high profile enough to be AQ. I could be wrong, but who knows?

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    I have not read anything in out SOG's about a bombing. Do you have to wait for a bomb squad, which in our area takes about an hour and a half or do you get right to work and hope there is not a secondary device? I think it would be hard as hell to wait the hour and a half.

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    BOston.com.s coverage...

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    Quote Originally Posted by conrad427 View Post
    I have not read anything in out SOG's about a bombing. Do you have to wait for a bomb squad, which in our area takes about an hour and a half or do you get right to work and hope there is not a secondary device? I think it would be hard as hell to wait the hour and a half.
    As was done, you do your (insert expletive) job. Waiting an hour and half (wouldn't be that long in Boston of course) would likely result in many more deaths (see Columbine and likely Newtown). As you can see in Boston, everyone jumped right in and began to help by all means possible, I can't imagine any public safety people (OK, maybe one...) standing back and waiting for the scene to miraculously deemed safe.

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    Thanks for the reply. I agree we have to do our job. BFD got the job done. I have never responded to a bombing, likely a lot of us have not. It probably makes the pucker factor go up knowing that your PPE will not protect you from the overpressure of a second blast. Hats off to Boston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chenzo View Post
    Thought go out to everyone affected.

    I hope they catch the ****ers who did this quick, and they get what they deserve just as quick.
    No, SLOWLY. VERY slowly. We need to make examples of these terrorists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyChiefGonzo View Post
    Thoughts and prayers go out to the people of Boston, the Boston Fire and Police Departments, Boston EMS, Mass State Police and all those who were at the scene of the explosions.

    The perpetrators of this heinous act are @#$%^! cowards and will be caught.
    Well said Sir, I concur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conrad427 View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I agree we have to do our job. BFD got the job done. I have never responded to a bombing, likely a lot of us have not. It probably makes the pucker factor go up knowing that your PPE will not protect you from the overpressure of a second blast. Hats off to Boston.
    PPE wont protect you from a flashover, either.....But you still do your job and carry on. Anything less would be cowardice.
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    If it had to happen, Boston is a town with the right resources and people to get the job done. Good job BFD and EMS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by conrad427 View Post
    I have not read anything in out SOG's about a bombing. Do you have to wait for a bomb squad, which in our area takes about an hour and a half or do you get right to work and hope there is not a secondary device? I think it would be hard as hell to wait the hour and a half.
    Do you actually SEE a suspicious device, and there is NO ONE injured? Then by all means sit and wait for the fruitcakes in the green suits that like to mess with things that go boom. Hopefully your truck has an AM/FM radio.

    144 people laying on the ground bleeding and only assumptions that additional devices may be present? Pull your big boy pants on and cowboy the @#$% up!

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    And the conspiracy theories have already begun. View the gallery of photos linked on the Firehouse.com and read the ridiculous comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    If it had to happen, Boston is a town with the right resources and people to get the job done. Good job BFD and EMS!
    And at a spot where there were plenty of EMS resources, police and fire. Had it occured on a "normal" afternoon things would have been much different. I'm sure everyone would still have been on their best game, but it would have been that much more of a challenge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by conrad427 View Post
    I have not read anything in out SOG's about a bombing. Do you have to wait for a bomb squad, which in our area takes about an hour and a half or do you get right to work and hope there is not a secondary device? I think it would be hard as hell to wait the hour and a half.
    And therein lies the challenge. Anyone with WMD training knows that one tactic used by terrorists is to place a second device where it will cause significant damage to the responders. A third bomb at the medical tent would have wreaked havoc on the whole rescue operation.

    I don't think anyone is going to wait (we'd be in the same boat, timewise, with a lengthy wait), but recognizing the possibility is key. As Boston PD did, you have to consider everything as suspicious. In their case, that included the many backpacks, etc, dropped by people fleeing the scene.

    This isn't going to be a time to stay and play, but you have to be aware.
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    This is only speculation.

    Given the timing, I'm thinking this is another nutcase that gets all teary eyed about either Hitler's birthday or the Waco Siege and wants to honor either or both of those events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    This is only speculation.

    Given the timing, I'm thinking this is another nutcase that gets all teary eyed about either Hitler's birthday or the Waco Siege and wants to honor either or both of those events.
    And by that simple speculation you have lowered yourself into the gutter of the mainstream media that when they have nothing to report make up schitt so they can have something to say.

    How about we let the FBI and all the other law enforcement agencies do their job and identify and then catch the perpetrators of this horrific cowardly criminal act. Frankly the idea that we should wait for all the evidence to come in after a firefighters LODD before speculating on the cause, but then pointing fingers at a wild azz guess of who did this bombing seem contradictory and frankly hypocritical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    And by that simple speculation you have lowered yourself into the gutter of the mainstream media that when they have nothing to report make up schitt so they can have something to say.

    How about we let the FBI and all the other law enforcement agencies do their job and identify and then catch the perpetrators of this horrific cowardly criminal act. Frankly the idea that we should wait for all the evidence to come in after a firefighters LODD before speculating on the cause, but then pointing fingers at a wild azz guess of who did this bombing seem contradictory and frankly hypocritical.
    Big difference there cowboy. I prefaced my remarks with the term "speculation." You must have missed it.

    Secondly, given the perps stated those reasons for both the Columbine and OKC incidents, I am making my assertion with some degree of historical knowledge.

    I freely admit I could be wrong. Again, hence the use of the term "speculation."
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    So I'm watching the Nightly News yesterday reporting on all the support the first responders are getting. One of BPD's finest says, "We're getting so much love I almost feel like a firefighter."
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    This is only speculation.

    Given the timing, I'm thinking this is another nutcase that gets all teary eyed about either Hitler's birthday or the Waco Siege and wants to honor either or both of those events.
    Who's speculation, this wonderful administration we are enjoying? The very same ones that completely missed the timing of Benghazi on 9/11 and called it just a random act? As much as the current administration and mainstream media wants of avoid it, there is only 1 common denominator in these attacks.
    Unfortunately the front line of terror has moved to the first responder. Their mistake was playing it out in a tough, self-made, blue collar city like Boston. You don't descend from the same stock that carved out this great country by turning the other cheek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Big difference there cowboy. I prefaced my remarks with the term "speculation." You must have missed it.

    Secondly, given the perps stated those reasons for both the Columbine and OKC incidents, I am making my assertion with some degree of historical knowledge.

    I freely admit I could be wrong. Again, hence the use of the term "speculation."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPFDRum View Post
    Who's speculation, this wonderful administration we are enjoying? The very same ones that completely missed the timing of Benghazi on 9/11 and called it just a random act? As much as the current administration and mainstream media wants of avoid it, there is only 1 common denominator in these attacks.
    Unfortunately the front line of terror has moved to the first responder. Their mistake was playing it out in a tough, self-made, blue collar city like Boston. You don't descend from the same stock that carved out this great country by turning the other cheek.
    So who is turning the other cheek? What is the link you are trying to draw between the two events? Was the Administration responsible for not predicting the bombing in Boston? Why don't you just go one step further and blame the explosion in West, TX on him as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Not so easy to stereotype when you know the facts.
    I said I could be wrong. And I was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    I said I could be wrong. And I was.
    But why say it in the first place? That is my point. I ran all kinds of possibilities through my head, but felt no need to add to the anxiety people felt by pointing fingers.
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