AND AGAIN, your definition of viable and necessary is simply outrageous, and not the norm in the rest of the fire service.
I sincerely hope your community knows that their fire department is run by elitists who refuse to do their job if it puts them at risk of ANYTHING.
So because my primary concern is that every single one of my responding firefighters walks off the scene so that they can go to work the next day and provide for thier famalies, I am a elitist?
To me , that is the primary job of every officer.
They don't have to be labled "squatters", or any other descriptive tag for that matter. I get the feeling that your disdain for anyone being in someone elses property in "your" berg constitutes a reason to not render aid to them should things go bad.
Signs should be posted at every entrance to town that "squatters, mischievous kids, curious land and property speculators, historical preservationists, amatuer or professional photographers, used brick dealers, or even you vermin just passin through, a lookin fer a place tu pee, will not be eligible for life safety privileges in this here town".
1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups (You and your fire departments) deserve favored treatment(From your community) by virtue of their perceived superiority, (The fact that you drive big red trucks with flashing lights) as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
Yeah, sounds about right.
People call the fire department for HELP, not to have another 10 guys to stand in the yard and watch the house burn down, not to look at them and say "Oh sorry, we're not saving gramma today, we only have 6 guys, not 12."
It is the primary job of every officer to make sure, to the best of their ability, that everyone goes home. That does not mean, however, that we don't aggressively try to save lives, and even property. That's what you seem to fail to understand.
So tell me who here says "Gosh darn it, screw these firefighters, they are expendable, and the sooner they realize it the better? Damn the torpedoes full speed ahead! Run into that fully involved building, run into that collapsing structure. BANZAI!!" Well, tell me who has made any claim that safety is not important? The truth is you are not about safety, you are about control and your means of exercising control is to be this ridiculously zealous safety monitor. The hard truth is people expect the fire department to arrive and make the situation better, in order to do that you have to at least attempt to extinguish the fire or make a search...WHEN POSSIBLE! Your ridiculous comments in the garage fire topic about how you would very possibly lose that house show your complete willingness to just stand back and say "Oh Well. It ain't mine." But then again you need a conscience to feel anything when bad things happen to others and since nothing causes you to lose sleep it is clear you have none.
You are a blight, a poison, and the worst of this so called new wave of safety culturists who should have sought a different career or volunteer agency to be involved in.
Maybe the fault here isn't on the firefighters. Maybe it isn't even on LA. Maybe it is on the leadership that actually makes decisions for the FD.
Does anyone here remember the kid in the neighborhood when you were growing up whose parents always shot him down? The kid who wanted to be a pilot, or a doctor, or a soldier, or whatever and his parents told them over and over you aren't smart enough, tough enough, skilled enough, to be those people and you never will be. Eventually, like the beat dog, most of those kids give up on their dream and become just another mindless wage earning drone like their loser parents were. I am just wondering how long it takes telling your firefighters that they suck, alway will suck, and nothing they do will even put a dent in their suckiness, before they finally hang their heads and say "WE SUCK!" and quit trying with any enthusiasm to not suck.
Or is it that the department has run into the situation where either 1. Nobody else is willing to do it or 2. No one else is qualified or ready to do it, so that leaves the leaders in there that just roam around telling their guys that they suck?
When I took Firefighter I and Firefighter II, I was working 40+ hours a week, and going to other college part time for some general education credits.
When I took FADO, I was working part time (15-20hrs a week), and running 250+ hours a month on the ambulance.
When I took EMT-B, I was running 350-400+ hours a month on the ambulance.
When I took EMT-IT, I was working 35 hours a week, and running 250-350+ hours on the ambulance.
I have a wife, and daughter, and bills too.
I don't/didn't/won't make excuses not to train, because excuses don't end emergencies, training does.
There is no difference in the commitment to being a vollie firefighter as there is a reserve LEO.
In CA, reserve LEO's go through the same training and are required to maintain the same certs as professionals. Many do that while holding down a full time job and taking care of their families.
It's obvious you want the glamor of being a firefighter without the actual responsibility.
It's not an unreasonable expectation here. I took FF1 while working full time with a 2 and 4 year old at home. FF1 is the starting point for all of the fire departments in the county (all volunteer). Granted, we have a good deal with MFRI offering night classes at least 4 times a year in our region, and day classes as well. There is no shortage of classes available.
LA, and anyone else in LA's position as far as training and certification, are any of you working to change this? Are you striving to make training and certification more accessible to your members? Or are you sitting on your hands saying woe is me and doing nothing to fix it?
If you're sitting on your hands, why? Why aren't you working to make things better for you, your members, your department, and most importantly, your community?
Ummmmmmmmmmmm... let's think...................
Have taught at least 2 Awareness and 2 Ops classes for my VFD. I have taught 2 FFI classes for my combo department plus a FFII class. I am currently helping 2 neighboring districts teach a FFI class. Helped one of those districts teach a FFI class 2 years ago.
And that's not even counting the 14 or 15 or so Smoke reading classes I have done for other departments throughout 4 parishes, the 8 or 9 Large Vehilce Fire Operations classes and the 3 or 4 12-hour Search and rapid Intervention classes I have done in the past 3 years for other departments, in addition to teaching every other week at my VFD and 8 or 9 times a year at my combo department.
Nope .. Just sitting on my hands.
Problem is that in many places in this country there is a shortage of classes and there may not be qualified instructors locally, or they may not have the time to plug the gaps in state training.
Marylnad seems to fund fire training well. Seems like it's the same with Fryed in Wisconsin. In many states that's not the case and the funding will simply never be there.
There is a slew of training available in many topics/areas's of the fire service.
Availability and/or cost is not the issue around here......time is. Between work hours, family time, and whatever else people are doing with their time....they have less time available to get themselves trained. For them...it's just not a high enough priority in their life list. There are a few who make the time, but they are a very low minority.
As for what "we" are doing about it.....we are now up to 7 or 8 instructors in the department so "we" can offer more trainings at more times. But we can't make people show up. We post catalogs, send out notices, encourage trainings....but can't make people go. We have minimum training standards for the department already...and we make sure they are met.
If I had the power to make 30 hours in a day instead of 24....;)
I understand that not every place has the training opportunities that we have in Maryland. We are very fortunate. I still say in general that it's not unreasonable to expect volunteers to meet the FF1 and EMT standards. If they want to be a firefighter, they can find the time. The fact that the infrastructure isn't in place in some areas is a little bit of a different issue, but I will admit that it affects volunteers more than it would paid departments.