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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    No, I really don't but I'm not like some of those running around quoting NFPA standards to support the fact that they want FFI as the national standard.

    Fine ... If they want FFI then they need to agree that it is unsafe to use 3 or 4 members for initial attack as NFPA states a fire requires 16 members.

    Then I'll agree to physicals. Well actually, my Chiefs would have to agree to that.
    Hey dumb azz, YOU brought the NFPA into this topic when you used them to support your BS. Talk about a damn hypocrite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Education alone has seldom made anyone too awful smart. It takes the ability to use what you learn and tie it in with real world experience. The term educated idiot is not a new one and unfortunately too many educated idiots, with no real world experience, are trying to take over the fire service and turn it into Romper Room. Frankly paper without experience means exactly diddly squat.

    Thanks again for posting your resume, what is that now 8 or 10 times in the last week. It is as meaningful as you picking and choosing what NFPA Standards you choose to support. Don't forget NFPA has a Standard for firefighter training too, as well as those physicals you keep making excuses to avoid.
    Ok .. real world experience.

    22 years developing and delivering public education and 20 years of program management. 18 years developing public education training which has been delivered at department, regional and state level training venues. Membership, Co-Chairmanship and Chairmanship positions on regional and state level public education and juvenile firesetting task forces, committees and coalitions. National Fire Academy Instructor - Public Education and Juvenile Firesetting Intervention.

    1 community level and 3 department level awards for public education delivery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Education alone has seldom made anyone too awful smart. It takes the ability to use what you learn and tie it in with real world experience. The term educated idiot is not a new one and unfortunately too many educated idiots, with no real world experience, are trying to take over the fire service and turn it into Romper Room. Frankly paper without experience means exactly diddly squat.

    Thanks again for posting your resume, what is that now 8 or 10 times in the last week. It is as meaningful as you picking and choosing what NFPA Standards you choose to support. Don't forget NFPA has a Standard for firefighter training too, as well as those physicals you keep making excuses to avoid.
    Ok .. real world experience.

    22 years developing and delivering public education and 20 years of program management. 18 years developing public education training which has been delivered at department, regional and state level training venues. Membership, Co-Chairmanship and Chairmanship positions on regional and state level public education and juvenile firesetting task forces, committees and coalitions. National Fire Academy Instructor - Public Education and Juvenile Firesetting Intervention.

    1 community level and 3 department level awards for public education delivery.

    Happy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Ok .. real world experience.

    22 years developing and delivering public education and 18 years of program management. 18 years developing public education training which has been delivered at department, regional and state level training venues. Membership, Co-Chairmanship and Chairmanship positions on regional and state level public education and juvenile firesetting task forces, committees and coalitions. National Fire Academy Instructor - Public Education and Juvenile Firesetting Intervention.

    1 community level and 3 department level awards for public education delivery.

    Happy?
    Thanks for proving my point. You are EXACTLY educated, and have experience, to provide Fire Related Public Education.

    No where in your little resume here did you mention one single moment of fireground experience. Thanks for showing us EXACTLY who you are and WHY you should NOT be involved in any type of fire ground command operations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Could be the idiot.
    Yup. Glad you agree.

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    Certified LA Teacher Grades 1-6, Fire & Life Safety Educator I & II. Inspector I & II, Juvenile Firesetting Intervention Specialist I & II, CERT Instructor, Instructor I & II, Fire Officer I, NIMS 100-400, BLS Instructor.
    Fewer college units than a frosh Communications major at a local JC.

    No surprises. I'm sure you were one of the best qualified in your little burg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Thanks for proving my point. You are EXACTLY educated, and have experience, to provide Fire Related Public Education.

    No where in your little resume here did you mention one single moment of fireground experience. Thanks for showing us EXACTLY who you are and WHY you should NOT be involved in any type of fire ground command operations.
    Was replying to SC's comment regarding my public education experience .... Not my fireground experience.

    Frankly I don't have the time post that, nor do I need to post anything to validate my opinions.

    I could post my certs, but I already have. I could post the NFA Company officer and Command classes I have taken (which is most of them by the way). I could post my specialty rescue and firefighting classes. And I could post my real world experience, but frankly it's none of your business.
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    Actually Fyred ... Give me your e-mail and I'll be more than happy to e-mail you my Curriculum Vitae.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    No, I really don't but I'm not like some of those running around quoting NFPA standards to support the fact that they want FFI as the national standard.
    You're the one that brought up using NFPA standards. You clearly are an idiot.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Fine ... If they want FFI then they need to agree that it is unsafe to use 3 or 4 members for initial attack as NFPA states a fire requires 16 members.
    This coming from someone who is constantly whining that he shouldn't have to train for anything other than what he deems necessary in his jurisdiction. Unless your tagline is only a facade in the same manner that you consider yourself a firefighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Then I'll agree to physicals. Well actually, my Chiefs would have to agree to that.
    You've already detailed they are just as much if not more pathetic than you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Actually Fyred ... Give me your e-mail and I'll be more than happy to e-mail you my Curriculum Vitae.
    My e-mail is posted on my profile page, or you can send me a PM. Frankly, I believe you have a ton of certs and classes under your belt. So unless you feel the need to try and impress me you needn't bother sending it. I also believe you have many years on fire departments. I don't believe however you have much real world fire experience, especially at the command level whether company level or above.

    The funny thing is about experience. Many guys say they have 20 years experience in the fire service when the truth is they have that same one year's worht of experience 20 times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    No, I really don't but I'm not like some of those running around quoting NFPA standards to support the fact that they want FFI as the national standard.

    Fine ... If they want FFI then they need to agree that it is unsafe to use 3 or 4 members for initial attack as NFPA states a fire requires 16 members.

    Then I'll agree to physicals. Well actually, my Chiefs would have to agree to that.
    What???????? Do you stand in the front yard and wait until you have 16 people before you make an attack on the fire? Do you have a big team meeting, give assignments, and then shout break and everyone goes and does their assignment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Could be the idiot.
    There's no could be. You are an idiot, and that much of an idiot.

    Way to post your resume, again.

    Are these legitimate certificates you have? Because something written in crayon by your mother doesn't count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Ok .. real world experience.

    22 years developing and delivering public education and 20 years of program management. 18 years developing public education training which has been delivered at department, regional and state level training venues. Membership, Co-Chairmanship and Chairmanship positions on regional and state level public education and juvenile firesetting task forces, committees and coalitions. National Fire Academy Instructor - Public Education and Juvenile Firesetting Intervention.

    1 community level and 3 department level awards for public education delivery.

    Happy?
    More resume, I see.

    Gosh, you must really feel insignificant and inconsequential if you feel you have to keep posting what classes you claim you've taken and what experience you claim to have....

    Still a blathering idiot.

    Again, made up stories and crayon written certificates from mommy don't count.
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    I believe he has every cert he says he does...Doesn't mean he knows how to utilize themm, but I do believe he as them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    I believe he has every cert he says he does...Doesn't mean he knows how to utilize themm, but I do believe he as them all.
    many certs have deevolved to certs of attendance
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    I believe he has every cert he says he does...Doesn't mean he knows how to utilize themm, but I do believe he as them all.
    I don't care what he has if he refuses to utilize them. They might as well be blank pieces of paper if he's not going to use the "knowledge" he has.

    I've seen people do more with less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slackjawedyokel View Post
    many certs have deevolved to certs of attendance
    Not in Wisconsin, at least if you are talking about the State of Wisconsin Certification program. Not only do you have to attend and complete the course to the instructor's satisfaction, yu then have to take both a written and practical state exam. So the process is still valid and actually quite strict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chenzo View Post
    I don't care what he has if he refuses to utilize them. They might as well be blank pieces of paper if he's not going to use the "knowledge" he has.

    I've seen people do more with less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slackjawedyokel View Post
    many certs have deevolved to certs of attendance
    Ah, yes. Participation ribbons!!!! The staple of mediocrity!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackjawedyokel View Post
    many certs have deevolved to certs of attendance
    I would say all of them have become that relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chenzo View Post
    I don't care what he has if he refuses to utilize them. They might as well be blank pieces of paper if he's not going to use the "knowledge" he has.

    I've seen people do more with less.
    Funny thing is that I do utilize them .... Though sometimes it's to decide that performing aggressively and/or operating interior is simply not the right call for the crew.
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