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    I think that Lt. McCormack has been monitoring this thread... from Urban Firefighter's Facebok page...

    Don't You Just Hate Traditions
    By Ray McCormack

    We hear a lot of blame being placed on fire service traditions. Get rid of the traditions and everything will be better!

    Some don't even have to be traditions in the true sense they can just be statements, such as "Firefighting is a dangerous profession."
    This one is bad to some because if you think it is dangerous it will be.
    I wonder what fires they are attending?

    Another tradition of having large, well attended firefighter funerals and referring to all firefighters as heroes is bad. Some believe not all firefighters are heroes and their death should reflect that and young firefighters may see glory in death and take unnecessary risk. Have the courage to tell their families they were not heroes.

    And that pesky tradition of saving lives and property some think that needs the boot too. How has that one stayed around so long? Oh thats right, thats at the core of what firefighters do, but you know to some the core is rotten.
    If you run a department and this is how you feel don't lie to the public, tell them you no longer provide life or property saving services, it will make your departments renaming or dismantling that much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyChiefGonzo View Post
    I think that Lt. McCormack has been monitoring this thread... from Urban Firefighter's Facebok page...
    Feels like I have been hit in the noggin with a flat head axe.
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    So good it needs reposting!!

    Don't You Just Hate Traditions
    By Ray McCormack

    We hear a lot of blame being placed on fire service traditions. Get rid of the traditions and everything will be better!

    Some don't even have to be traditions in the true sense they can just be statements, such as "Firefighting is a dangerous profession."
    This one is bad to some because if you think it is dangerous it will be.
    I wonder what fires they are attending?

    Another tradition of having large, well attended firefighter funerals and referring to all firefighters as heroes is bad. Some believe not all firefighters are heroes and their death should reflect that and young firefighters may see glory in death and take unnecessary risk. Have the courage to tell their families they were not heroes.

    And that pesky tradition of saving lives and property some think that needs the boot too. How has that one stayed around so long? Oh thats right, thats at the core of what firefighters do, but you know to some the core is rotten.
    If you run a department and this is how you feel don't lie to the public, tell them you no longer provide life or property saving services, it will make your departments renaming or dismantling that much easier.

    Keep Fire in Your Life
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. Ray

    Don't You Just Hate Traditions
    By Ray McCormack

    We hear a lot of blame being placed on fire service traditions. Get rid of the traditions and everything will be better!

    Hmm..... Where have I heard that before....

    Some don't even have to be traditions in the true sense they can just be statements, such as "Firefighting is a dangerous profession."
    This one is bad to some because if you think it is dangerous it will be.
    I wonder what fires they are attending?

    Golly, I think I've heard this before too....

    Another tradition of having large, well attended firefighter funerals and referring to all firefighters as heroes is bad. Some believe not all firefighters are heroes and their death should reflect that and young firefighters may see glory in death and take unnecessary risk. Have the courage to tell their families they were not heroes.

    I'm starting to think Lt. Ray is spying on us, because I swear I've read something like this here before too..... Hmm......

    And that pesky tradition of saving lives and property some think that needs the boot too. How has that one stayed around so long? Oh thats right, thats at the core of what firefighters do, but you know to some the core is rotten.

    Golly, the core of what firefighters do is save lives and property? No.. that can't be... Someone here told me that wasn't the case anymore.....

    If you run a department and this is how you feel don't lie to the public, tell them you no longer provide life or property saving services, it will make your departments renaming or dismantling that much easier.

    Alright now I'm convinced Ray has wiretaps or spies on these forums.... GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Keep Fire in Your Life

    Oh I will, don't worry.
    Another spot on post by Lt. Ray.
    "A fire department that writes off civilians faster than an express line of 6 reasons or less is not progressive, it's dangerous, because it's run by fear. Fear does not save lives, it endangers them." -- Lt. Ray McCormack FDNY

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    Why don't you all just take a collection up and build a shrine to the LT from the FDNY?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Why don't you all just take a collection up and build a shrine to the LT from the FDNY?
    Why don't you man up and stop lying to the citizens in your district?
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    "A fire department that writes off civilians faster than an express line of 6 reasons or less is not progressive, it's dangerous, because it's run by fear. Fear does not save lives, it endangers them." -- Lt. Ray McCormack FDNY

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    Originally Posted by LaFireEducator
    Why don't you all just take a collection up and build a shrine to the LT from the FDNY?
    Posted by Chenzo...
    Why don't you man up and stop lying to the citizens in your district?
    !. They build statutes for heroes, not cowards.
    2. Chenzo just smacked you into the middle of next week big time..
    3. Game set match!
    ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Why don't you all just take a collection up and build a shrine to the LT from the FDNY?
    don't want to buy/build him a shrine, but dang sure would shake his hand and buy him his beverage of choice.
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