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    Nearly every rural department around here has older FEPP and newer FPP trucks. None of them have seatbelts that I'm aware. All of ours are just plain bench seats.

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    Default whats the best way to start this question .. please help

    there's a question on the application form that ask

    what skills , qualities and experience can you bring to a role of a firefighter ... now i what i can bring but whats the best way to format this instead of rambling on ?? so stressed out over a easy question

    just wanted to know examples of how to simplify my paragraphs how the best way to sell my self

    i was thinking along the lines like this

    introduction


    situation
    when i was working

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    to supervise the pool

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    to save the young boy

    result
    my rescue was performed and the boy was safe


    some star the star technique is a good way to go about it ...

    i was thinking about throwing in a curve ball technique too , that's where something was going wrong and i overcame it ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVFD705 View Post
    Nearly every rural department around here has older FEPP and newer FPP trucks. None of them have seatbelts that I'm aware. All of ours are just plain bench seats.
    Ex-military vehicle are examples of trucks that would not have them, and I know that there are many rural departments that use them quite heavily.

    There also may be some older model commercial trucks that do not have seatbelts.

    But that being said, there are members that simply don't want to wear seatbelts as they feel that they do slow them down, and that is the type of needed cultural change that was being discussed in the video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Our culture needs to change.
    Why does our culture need to change? So that you're pathetic views and tactics can become the norm? You don't have the balls to man up and do the job, so you have to sink the rest of the fire service to your pathetic level?

    Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no. No dice hombre
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    I think he's right on spot.

    Our culture needs to change.
    Au contraire.. your perverted view of what the fire service should be needs to be changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    The fact is there are things in the fire service culture that he discussed that does lead to injuries and also leads to a culture that says injuries, and LODDs, are OK, and a part of the job.

    I know there will be those that disagree with my assessment, but have at it.
    There is no culture that says injuries and LODD's are Ok. And there never was.

    There is a culture of accepting that sometimes....something....goes wrong. We learn from that.

    Dr. Clark makes mention of FF's being too close (in his mind a culture) in a fire....does he look at any of the possible factual reasons those FF's were there? or does he simply use the result to further his cause? I know the answer is the latter because he never discusses WHY they were there other than his belief it's a "culture".

    Sorry. He may have had good intentions...but he shoots himself in the foot so many times he can't be taken serious. And he probably was trying to get a good message out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chenzo View Post
    Why does our culture need to change? So that you're pathetic views and tactics can become the norm? You don't have the balls to man up and do the job, so you have to sink the rest of the fire service to your pathetic level?

    Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no. No dice hombre
    Our culture does change. We have learned from our past. We've improved on it, we respect it, we continue to learn from it. We don't hide from it. That's our culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    Our culture does change. We have learned from our past. We've improved on it, we respect it, we continue to learn from it. We don't hide from it. That's our culture.
    I would debate that there is a portion of the fires service that has either not learned from the past or refuses to heed the lessons from the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    There is no culture that says injuries and LODD's are Ok. And there never was.

    There is a culture of accepting that sometimes....something....goes wrong. We learn from that.

    Dr. Clark makes mention of FF's being too close (in his mind a culture) in a fire....does he look at any of the possible factual reasons those FF's were there? or does he simply use the result to further his cause? I know the answer is the latter because he never discusses WHY they were there other than his belief it's a "culture".

    Sorry. He may have had good intentions...but he shoots himself in the foot so many times he can't be taken serious. And he probably was trying to get a good message out.
    Bull.

    There have been folks here that have said that "injuries are a part of the job".

    I would debate that there are places where injuries are fully accepted as part of being a firefighter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Bull.

    There have been folks here that have said that "injuries are a part of the job".

    I would debate that there are places where injuries are fully accepted as part of being a firefighter.
    Injuries are a part of the job... any firefighter with more than three brain cells can figure that out

    I slipped on a wet floor at a false alarm, landed on my portable radio and screwed up my back and was out for 20 tours back in 2006.

    One of my firefighter brothers stepped in a hole while advancing a hose line into a home, severely sprained his ankle and was out for a couple of weeks.

    Another brother firefighter tore his rotator cuff while doing a lift assist. He's been out for close to a year. Two others also suffered torn rotator cuffs, one while pulling a deuce and half line, the other doing a lift assist of a morbidly obese person in a tiny bathroom.

    I watched as three brothers fell through a floor of a legacy built platform construction house. A couple had burn injuries, all were banged up when the adrenalin flowed and their brothers pulled them out of the basement.

    One had a heart attack while doing RIT training, another has been diagnosed with occupational cancer. Both have submitted their retirement papers.

    The only way to totally prevent injuries is to stop responding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyChiefGonzo View Post
    Injuries are a part of the job... any firefighter with more than three brain cells can figure that out

    I slipped on a wet floor at a false alarm, landed on my portable radio and screwed up my back and was out for 20 tours back in 2006.

    One of my firefighter brothers stepped in a hole while advancing a hose line into a home, severely sprained his ankle and was out for a couple of weeks.

    Another brother firefighter tore his rotator cuff while doing a lift assist. He's been out for close to a year. Two others also suffered torn rotator cuffs, one while pulling a deuce and half line, the other doing a lift assist of a morbidly obese person in a tiny bathroom.

    I watched as three brothers fell through a floor of a legacy built platform construction house. A couple had burn injuries, all were banged up when the adrenalin flowed and their brothers pulled them out of the basement.

    One had a heart attack while doing RIT training, another has been diagnosed with occupational cancer. Both have submitted their retirement papers.

    The only way to totally prevent injuries is to stop responding.
    We average at least eight people on light duty or off roster throughout the year, eight average right now there are ten from on the job injury or illness. In my career I have had surgeries on one knee. My other knee is being held off with regular cortisone shots. Both shoulders are in trouble with a rotator tear on one and a slap tear on the other. All on the job. Im actually at home right now getting over an exposure illness and probably will be out for a month. Please tell me how I could have avoided any of this and still be on the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    I think he's right on spot.

    Our culture needs to change.

    This comes from the man that is perfectly happy to allow a bunch of fat bastards with cardic issues to be firefighters. Cardic issues is the number one cause of LODD's but you're more worried about not doing the job than trying to save someones life by saying no you can't be a firefighter because of your health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    I would debate that there is a portion of the fires service that has either not learned from the past or refuses to heed the lessons from the past.
    Not for nothing La....but your vol department seems to fit this category well. Physicals? Can't afford to do that....we may lose members. Out of shape members? As long as they stay exterior. Lack of volunteer spirit. Why? Because that is the "culture" of your area.

    Just sayin....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Bull.

    There have been folks here that have said that "injuries are a part of the job".

    I would debate that there are places where injuries are fully accepted as part of being a firefighter.
    No bull. Yes, some injuries are part of the job. See Gonzo's post for some examples. And those examples can't be changed.

    You believe there is a culture that believes injuries are Ok regardless of the situation. You are told many times that is not true. You fail to believe that and fail to ever prove that. There is no one that ignores all risk and accepts injuries. And you know that.
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    just curious what is LA's real name, im wondering this because I too am a Louisiana fireman and pretty sure his views need to be brought up in our area, or at least people need to be made aware of him.

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    Enable your private messaging, I'll tell you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lukejr985 View Post
    just curious what is LA's real name, im wondering this because I too am a Louisiana fireman and pretty sure his views need to be brought up in our area, or at least people need to be made aware of him.
    I would have been more than happy to tell you myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyChiefGonzo View Post
    Enable your private messaging, I'll tell you.
    I'd have suggested asking La himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lukejr985 View Post
    PM enabled Chief
    It won't let me send you a mesage yet
    ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
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    Again, I'll be happy to tell you personally.

    I'll even give you my e-mail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Again, I'll be happy to tell you personally.

    I'll even give you my e-mail.
    yardbreather@scaredoffire.net
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    Is that his new one chief? I still have SafetySally@strokemyego.org

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    It's funny how many people are signing up for the forums just to disagree with La's viewpoints.

    So far, I have it scored

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    It's funny how many people are signing up for the forums just to disagree with La's viewpoints.

    So far, I have it scored

    0.0% agree

    100% disagree
    I doubt Bobby represents the mindset of his VFD. That's obvious since no one other than him as chimed to verify and support him.

    That in itself says legions.
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