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    Quote Originally Posted by ladderman View Post
    Will truck be built at the central states or general plant?
    The truck will have the general plant that is also where the chassis and cab are done too. The aerial comes out of there Nebraska plant.


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    Nice looking apparatus. Do have a generator on board? Also do have foam built in or as a portable only option? Does this set up have litter mount on the basket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperFire123 View Post
    Nice looking apparatus. Do have a generator on board? Also do have foam built in or as a portable only option? Does this set up have litter mount on the basket?
    Yes it has a Onan 10Kw Hyd on board we wanted to do the greenstar 7kw system that way the main engine would shut down the greenstar would power all the elec and hvac but do to the tower being a midmount and at 11' there was no room under the ladder. We still got a greenstar system which it lith batteries so the main engine can shut down when not needed and at least having all our led lighting working yet for about 8 hrs.

    We have no foam at all. We had it on our 73 75' snorkel when i started with my company back in 1993 and when i was there we never used and the old timers never said it had been used and our current scope has never had foam. If needed we could have a engine feed use the foam our we can just get the portable.

    Yes it will have 2 arms for the stokes basket to be mounted to the platform that way its outside the platform and leaves plenty of room inside for us and ems with there stuff. Also those arms are used with the roof/parapit ladder and can be used as rope anchor points to if needed.

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    Thursday and Friday big day with sitting down with Rosenbauer for Pre-Con for our new Ladder Tower going to be two long days worth of more work.
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    Default Your Work Is Not Done !

    You have one more year of hard work to do, and 2- 3 inspection visits. But at the end it will all be worth the wait seeing your new apparatus back into your station !

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    Shes a beut, Tower412. Congrats on it, and break her in on the first night, JOBS.

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    Tower412,

    Let me know how the prebuild goes. I've only done one aerial so I'm kind of interested to see how ours went compared to others.
    When we were getting ready to put a mid mount out for bids we looked at Rosenbauer. During our research we went to Fremont and toured the aerial plant. Also had a chance to speak with them at FDIC 2012. They have some nice features and I think they build a decent truck. We already have one of their engines.
    I have to admit, later that same day we went to Snyder and looked at the Smeal aerial as well. We also have a couple Smeal engines in service. I also think Smeal has some nice features and builds a decent truck. I would have no problem running either one of them.
    There needs to be a caveat inserted here. I'm not big on praise. Tom Osborne was a good coach. Bo Pelini is a decent coach. Only difference is that Dr. Tom had a lot more years at Nebraska than Bo so far. If you understand college football, especially Husker football, you will understand what I'm trying to say.
    For about the last 9 years I have operated both a mid mount platform and a rear mount ladder. Two different builders, different decades. As with anything, both have their pro's and con's. In my opinion, the mid mount is preferable. According to Sutphen, on our SP95, you need 24" between you and any obstruction to clear the bucket when you turn 90 degrees. Only time I am usually nervous is when I'm returning to the station with cars stopped beside me when I'm turning. That is easily mitigated by hugging the right side curb or turning between vehicles. Otherwise I consider it but don't get nervous about it. In comparison, the rear mount hangs over the front but sometimes you can forget the difference between it and the front bumper. It's all what you are used to operating.
    I'm just glad that in about a month we'll be operating two mid mounts, 95' and 100', platforms both. For our operation it will make each ladder that responds "standard".

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    Well got back 1am this morning from pre-con was hard working day and half of pre-con a lot of stuff was gone over and looked other trucks for other ideas and alot of things are being address/changed as with any pre-con trips and such her are a few photo's.

    Here is a link to some pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOWER412 View Post
    Yes it has a Onan 10Kw Hyd on board we wanted to do the greenstar 7kw system that way the main engine would shut down the greenstar would power all the elec and hvac but do to the tower being a midmount and at 11' there was no room under the ladder. We still got a greenstar system which it lith batteries so the main engine can shut down when not needed and at least having all our led lighting working yet for about 8 hrs.

    We have no foam at all. We had it on our 73 75' snorkel when i started with my company back in 1993 and when i was there we never used and the old timers never said it had been used and our current scope has never had foam. If needed we could have a engine feed use the foam our we can just get the portable.

    Yes it will have 2 arms for the stokes basket to be mounted to the platform that way its outside the platform and leaves plenty of room inside for us and ems with there stuff. Also those arms are used with the roof/parapit ladder and can be used as rope anchor points to if needed.
    We recently purchased an new Suthpen platform. We are tying to figure out the best way to secure the stokes backet to the arms. Do you set the stokes on the arms? Do you hang the stokes? Thanks for any info

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaff162 View Post
    We recently purchased an new Suthpen platform. We are tying to figure out the best way to secure the stokes backet to the arms. Do you set the stokes on the arms? Do you hang the stokes? Thanks for any info
    I'm surprised your dealer didn't go over with you about the arms for your suthpen. If it is the sph100 the arms are mounted to the front of the basket catwalk and swing outward. You should place the stokes on top of the arms. Did they give you anything to hold the basket down to the arms. If not you can try to use pull type of tie downs. That is what we have been using on our aerialscope for years. We would lay stokes across the basket handrails and use pull type tie downs to hold it in place didn't leave much room in the basket. Just for the guy operating the basket and one other. With the new tower that we will be getting in July/August you swing the arms out and place the stokes on top of the arms. It keeps the stokes out side of the basket and you plenty of room inside. So you can have about 3-4 people. It will be nice because we can have our two guys and a emt now with us to monitor the vic.

    Do you have a pic of your tower.

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    Hey Tower412, Do you have any in production photos that you can post of your new aerial ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodbridge View Post
    Hey Tower412, Do you have any in production photos that you can post of your new aerial ??
    As of right now I don't have any pics yet I should in about a week or two. Its a drivable chassis. The cab got painted this week and they will be starting to get it trimmed and out fitted. Then cab and chassis mated. Thats when I should have pics. 4/29 is when chassis/cab should be done and then of on the road to aerials around 5/5.

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    Just got a pic of the cab for our new ladder tower that is being built.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOWER412 View Post
    Yes it has a Onan 10Kw Hyd on board we wanted to do the greenstar 7kw system that way the main engine would shut down the greenstar would power all the elec and hvac but do to the tower being a midmount and at 11' there was no room under the ladder. We still got a greenstar system which it lith batteries so the main engine can shut down when not needed and at least having all our led lighting working yet for about 8 hrs.

    We have no foam at all. We had it on our 73 75' snorkel when i started with my company back in 1993 and when i was there we never used and the old timers never said it had been used and our current scope has never had foam. If needed we could have a engine feed use the foam our we can just get the portable.

    Yes it will have 2 arms for the stokes basket to be mounted to the platform that way its outside the platform and leaves plenty of room inside for us and ems with there stuff. Also those arms are used with the roof/parapit ladder and can be used as rope anchor points to if needed.
    You were able to fit a snorkel in that house?
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    Yes we where able to fit a Snorkel in . The member who was on the committee for the Snorkel was also on the committee for the Aerialscope we are running now.

    It was a 75' model on a Walther Bison chassis with pierce body that was done by Young Fire Apparatus.
    It is listed in a book on Young Fire Apparatus but they incorrectly listed it as a 85'.

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    I have to take a pic of a pic hanging up in the firehouse showing it in the firehouse with the guys in front of it during one of the bi-annual fire chief inspection parades we use to have years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    You were able to fit a snorkel in that house?
    Many Snorkel's are actually shorter in height than their replacement aerials. My sister company's was about 10 inches shorter.
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    The cab looks good, but isn't the building of your tower taking longer than normal ?

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    Here a pic of our old snorkel in the firehouse it was pulled out about 3 foot for the pic. There was about a foot of room from the boom to the ceiling. I have the specs for the snorkel floating around some where have to see if its travel height is in there.
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    As for why it taking a little long for our new rig. Is trucks ahead of us and also about a month delay do to one of there suppliers sold his company and they had to find a new one for the headlight stampings.

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    Moving right along. Leaving this Monday to head off to aerial division to have tower mounted then back to body for lights, bumper, body, and pump.
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    Hey, Tower412 I see your old Aerialscope is for sale on one of the used fire apparatus web sites, is the new truck complete ??

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