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    Smile 2 years worth of hard work and our new Ladder Tower is ordered.

    2 years worth of hard work and our new Ladder Tower is ordered to replace our current Scope. Pre-con in a few weeks. After going through so many mfg and the bidding Rosenbauer has been award by the town to build a 88' midmount ladder tower quint. The toughest thing was to try to fit the same foot print that our Scope has, do to not being able to modify the firehouse at all. Here is a quick basic look of what it will look like and it will be retaining the black over red paint scheme and gold leafing that our scope has.

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    250 gt
    Signal joystick in bucket and at turntable and radio remote control

    10 lbs. worth of stuff in the 5 lbs. bag.


    Just to give you an idea of what it is replacing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOWER412 View Post
    2 years worth of hard work and our new Ladder Tower is ordered to replace our current Scope. Pre-con in a few weeks. After going through so many mfg and the bidding Rosenbauer has been award by the town to build a 88' midmount ladder tower quint. The toughest thing was to try to fit the same foot print that our Scope has, do to not being able to modify the firehouse at all. Here is a quick basic look of what it will look like and it will be retaining the black over red paint scheme and gold leafing that our scope has.

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    Quick spec:
    7-man cab
    Cummins ISX 15
    1500 gpm pump
    250 gt
    Signal joystick in bucket and at turntable and radio remote control

    10 lbs. worth of stuff in the 5 lbs. bag.


    Just to give you an idea of what it is replacing.
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    Did the one you are replacing belong to Dillsburg, Pa. at one time?

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    Our Scope was bought brand new from Baker in 1994. Dillsburg's Scope was a remount during or after our Scope was built I don't remember who did the remount for them as far as I know it wasn't Baker.

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    I think I have a picture somewhere of the 89 Duplex/Non-Quality Pumper next to Dillsburg's Scope down at Ocean City, Md.
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    Hey Tower412,You are lucky that your local government officials support the purchase of a new ladder tower.The drawing of your new truck looks real good, what will the O.A.L. of the apparatus be. And I still like your old SCOPE, they never die just get rebuilt !
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    I had to tweak the drawing to come close to what it will some what look like. Things might change when we go to pre-con next month. As of now it is 43' 11" with the 6" bumper we might put a bigger bumper on it so we have some where to plant our butts. With the body ending under the bucket we have more room behind the truck to get in to our rec room and can even move the truck back if need be.

    Our scope just had the outrigger/jack controls, ext/rec cylinders seals and the water seals redone a few months ago. Besides having two jacks rebuilt, rebuilt motor, rebuilt pto, on its third swivel unit.

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    The Aerialscopes do cost a lot of cash to maintain, but they are one of the strongest platforms in the fire service with there boxed boom construction. Will your old Scope go out bid or will it be used by another fire company in your town ?

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    Its up to the town with how they wont to sell it. They might go govbid.com thing or the used firetruck places which we are trying to see if it can be done that way the mayor and lawyer are checking into that.

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    Is that a RK Ladder?

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    Rosenbauer bought RK so in a sense it is but it's more Rosenbauer.

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    Ok thanks for the info. Who is the salesmen and where is the service shop in NJ?
    Nice looking design. Who else bid and what was the pricing?

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    Howard Snow of Eagle Fire Equipment they are out of Long Island, NY and Ridgefield Park, New Jersey. Do to not being able to do anything to the firehouse and having to fit the same foot print there wherent any other mfg's that bid. And we had looked at KME, Ferrara, Smeal, and among others that said it cant be done or just didn't want to bother.

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    Rosenbauer built a 75' midmount platform for a town in up state New york, a few years ago i think the name of the department was, Richmond Fire District, Honeoye,NY and the truck turn out real nice!
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    Looked the rig up nice looking and really short. Our sales rep said there was another Midmount 75' they just got done building don't remember who's it was. They also built a 4 section 85' Midmount. They are the only company that is willing to do this stuff. They also have made our Midmount 88' as part of there regular line. It's in there aerial brochures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOWER412 View Post
    Howard Snow of Eagle Fire Equipment they are out of Long Island, NY and Ridgefield Park, New Jersey. Do to not being able to do anything to the firehouse and having to fit the same foot print there wherent any other mfg's that bid. And we had looked at KME, Ferrara, Smeal, and among others that said it cant be done or just didn't want to bother.
    We had almost the identical issues with our quint. Height and length issues due to small apparatus bay doors. We needed a 100' stick though. We looked at everyone you listed and more, and only got a bid from RD Murray. Got a nice truck out of them, though! It will only fit in one of our 4 bays- two have too steep of a ramp, and would cause it to hit the door or bottom out, the other is too close to the edge of the driveway, and turning right out of the barn would be risky.

    Gotta love older firehouses... No room to expand, either- we're right on the four corners, and surrounded.

    The massive rear overhangs of those midmount towers have always worried me. That's a lot of tail swing on tight turns. Makes me wonder how many soiled underwear FDNY has caused over the years at intersections with their towers, lol.

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    These are pics of what we have to deal with our firehouse it looks like a one way but it is a two street and sometimes we can make it out in one shot most of the time its two to be on the same side of things. We are basically a side street between two main streets. The one street is the same size as the street we are just with one side parking the other one is a regular two way with paring on both sides.
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    The Scope we have now and the new tower are almost the same height the new tower is 11'.

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    We had almost the identical issues with our quint. Height and length issues due to small apparatus bay doors. We needed a 100' stick though. We looked at everyone you listed and more, and only got a bid from RD Murray. Got a nice truck out of them, though! It will only fit in one of our 4 bays- two have too steep of a ramp, and would cause it to hit the door or bottom out, the other is too close to the edge of the driveway, and turning right out of the barn would be risky.

    Gotta love older firehouses... No room to expand, either- we're right on the four corners, and surrounded.

    The massive rear overhangs of those midmount towers have always worried me. That's a lot of tail swing on tight turns. Makes me wonder how many soiled underwear FDNY has caused over the years at intersections with their towers, lol.
    You have a pic of your ladder tower.
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    Hi Tower412, from looking at the pictures you only run one apparatus from your fire house with no pumper, what type of calls do you run with your tower ladder? structure fire, MVA, gas leaks, etc!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodbridge View Post
    Hi Tower412, from looking at the pictures you only run one apparatus from your fire house with no pumper, what type of calls do you run with your tower ladder? structure fire, MVA, gas leaks, etc!
    Yes we do, with have a pump and tank on ours so we can handle until we get a good water supply if need or if the engines get there before is also depends on man power for the call. We take all calls in that are in our response area we don’t do MVA's hardly but can if needed. There are four other fire houses in town.

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    Will truck be built at the central states or general plant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladderman View Post
    Will truck be built at the central states or general plant?
    The truck will have the general plant that is also where the chassis and cab are done too. The aerial comes out of there Nebraska plant.

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    Nice looking apparatus. Do have a generator on board? Also do have foam built in or as a portable only option? Does this set up have litter mount on the basket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperFire123 View Post
    Nice looking apparatus. Do have a generator on board? Also do have foam built in or as a portable only option? Does this set up have litter mount on the basket?
    Yes it has a Onan 10Kw Hyd on board we wanted to do the greenstar 7kw system that way the main engine would shut down the greenstar would power all the elec and hvac but do to the tower being a midmount and at 11' there was no room under the ladder. We still got a greenstar system which it lith batteries so the main engine can shut down when not needed and at least having all our led lighting working yet for about 8 hrs.

    We have no foam at all. We had it on our 73 75' snorkel when i started with my company back in 1993 and when i was there we never used and the old timers never said it had been used and our current scope has never had foam. If needed we could have a engine feed use the foam our we can just get the portable.

    Yes it will have 2 arms for the stokes basket to be mounted to the platform that way its outside the platform and leaves plenty of room inside for us and ems with there stuff. Also those arms are used with the roof/parapit ladder and can be used as rope anchor points to if needed.

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    Thursday and Friday big day with sitting down with Rosenbauer for Pre-Con for our new Ladder Tower going to be two long days worth of more work.
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    Default Your Work Is Not Done !

    You have one more year of hard work to do, and 2- 3 inspection visits. But at the end it will all be worth the wait seeing your new apparatus back into your station !

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