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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    1. Criminals that commit crimes with guns will be locked up for their full sentences with no plea bargaining. As they will be spending their full sentences in jail, they will not be able to commit crimes until they are released.

    2. Felons who are found to have guns will go back to jail.

    3. People who are not allowed to purchase guns will be arrested and sentenced for attempting to purchase.
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    1. Would help. How about something to stop the original crime before it's committed?
    2. No argument.
    3. But those people can buy them from their neighbors....without a background check. Just have to hope their neighbor knows them well and their entire background. Something that you are a believer in...the ability for you to sell a gun to your neighbor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    1. Would help. How about something to stop the original crime before it's committed?
    2. No argument.
    3. But those people can buy them from their neighbors....without a background check. Just have to hope their neighbor knows them well and their entire background. Something that you are a believer in...the ability for you to sell a gun to your neighbor.
    In Wisconsin you can run a criminal background check using the internet. So if you care you can check yourself before you sell to anyone. Personally, I would not sell a firearms to anyone I didn't know VERY well.
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    Jeezus. Did i catch a reference to Vidkun Quisling? you guys are serious.

    Sorry about that.

    I really have trouble trying to figure out what should be done. We cant seem to enforce the laws that we have. People with 5 DUI's still kill people on the road. People still text and drive. Sprinklers and smoke detectors save lives. How are we going to get people to stop killing each other?
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    Well, we could just stop trying to stop people and accept that we are doing the best we can already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    Well, we could just stop trying to stop people and accept that we are doing the best we can already.
    I don't think anybody is suggesting that we stop trying.

    But I think what folks are saying is that universal background checks are simply targeting the wrong folks. They are targeting the folks who purchase guns through legal means and rarely represent a problem when it comes to murders, gun crime and gun violence.

    Where we need to direct our energy is on the folks that currently acquire guns illegally or through theft, and use them almost exclusively for criminal purposes. That is where the vast majority of the problems lie.

    Sure, mass shootings are a bad thing, but the reality is that they are quite rare, kill relatively few people compared to the total number of people killed and are a statistically anomaly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    ...Where we need to direct our energy is on the folks that currently acquire guns illegally or through theft, ...
    or from their neighbor down the street.

    And today's lovely news story....Facebook and Instagram?
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    Quote Originally Posted by conrad427 View Post
    Jeezus. Did i catch a reference to Vidkun Quisling? you guys are serious.
    I am dead dog serious about this topic and knowing a bit about history allows me to make references like Quisling.

    I am glad you appreciated it.
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    Still ranting about the tyrants are coming to take your guns.

    Nothing to see here. Move along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Still ranting about the tyrants are coming to take your guns.

    Nothing to see here. Move along.
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    By the way, once again you bald faced LIED about what I posted. No where in that post do I rant about anything, let alone tyrants. Nice try, but once again you failed miserably at what ever it is you were trying to do. Well, unless you were trying to look foolish.
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    If Zimmerman was black, this case would not be an issue. If Trayvon was white or Hispanic, this would not be an issue.

    If I were the Governor of Florida, I would call out the National Guard as a precaution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leakedmiley View Post
    If Zimmerman was black, this case would not be an issue. If Trayvon was white or Hispanic, this would not be an issue.

    If I were the Governor of Florida, I would call out the National Guard as a precaution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leakedmiley View Post
    If Zimmerman was black, this case would not be an issue. If Trayvon was white or Hispanic, this would not be an issue.

    If I were the Governor of Florida, I would call out the National Guard as a precaution.
    Awesome first post! I will read it again later!! Welcome to page one of this discussion...
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