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07-28-2013, 11:41 AM #21"Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."
07-28-2013, 02:56 PM #22
If "liberalism" were the only reason for Detroit's BK, more "liberal" cities would have fallen into the same pit, and "conservative" cities would all be fine...that isn't the case. Anyone who ignores the economic reasons caused by changes in the auto industry, or demographic changes over the past 60 years, and solely blames "liberalism" because it's an easy and handy political answer is just looking to make political hay and place blame. Reality is a bit more complicated than that.
Some interesting reading on Detroit and its decline:
Prior to Detroit. One of the largest municipal bankruptcies occurred in my backyard. Orange County, CA. Hardly a bastion of liberalism.
Last edited by scfire86; 07-29-2013 at 04:51 AM.Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
07-29-2013, 07:12 AM #23
This is indicative of the mismanagement that won't help Detroit recover anytime soon.
New Red Wing Stadium to be built with $285M in public fundsPolitics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
07-30-2013, 03:57 PM #24
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Losing them would do tremendous damage to what is left of civic pride and would send a message that Detroit is closing up shop. They have already lost the Lions and the Pistons to the suburbs.
From a financial impact, what is the revenue generated to the city on game nights?
As far as the author's comments on "picking winners and losers" there is a tremendous difference between the construction of sports facilities and anchors of a cities economy, such as theaters and selecting which private industries will get government funding and subsidies.
Last edited by LaFireEducator; 07-30-2013 at 04:02 PM.Train to fight the fires you fight.
07-30-2013, 04:12 PM #25
I agree that civic pride is important. I just believe the taxpayer shouldn't be subsidizing a private entity unless they also share in its profitability.Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
07-30-2013, 10:29 PM #26
Actually, the Lions are in downtown Detroit. They moved back there from the suburbs (Pontiac) more than just a few years ago.
07-30-2013, 10:32 PM #27
07-31-2013, 06:31 AM #28Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
07-31-2013, 11:51 AM #29
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Both parties love infringing on the Bill of Rights. Both parties love to spend money like drunken sailors (no offense to drunken sailors) and NEITHER party has offered up any type of a solution to the debt that will end up choking this country out.
I'm not done, but I'll end my rant there. Thank you, please pull through to the second window.
07-31-2013, 12:05 PM #30
That was funny. And accurate.Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
07-31-2013, 12:11 PM #31
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God bless you and please stay safe.
07-31-2013, 08:28 PM #32"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
Lt. Ray McCormack, FDNY
07-31-2013, 10:21 PM #33
07-31-2013, 10:57 PM #34
Crazy, but that's how it goes
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Millions of people living as foes
Maybe it's not too late
To learn how to love, and forget how to hate
08-01-2013, 12:41 AM #35
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