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    A verbal warning??? Really??? If it were one of us indians, we'd be gone....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Your link leads to an aol sign in page.

    Thanks, I fixed it.

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    You come to work ready to work, detailed or not. I do not condone using threats to get your point across but if the COD is in the house during roll call and inspection, it's a good idea to be in the proper uniform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trkco1 View Post
    You come to work ready to work, detailed or not. I do not condone using threats to get your point across but if the COD is in the house during roll call and inspection, it's a good idea to be in the proper uniform.
    WTF is the Chief doing conducting line up anyway? He was just there as a special guest? I smell something more than just some guy leaving his shirt stuffed in his bag, on the day that the COD decides to show up and do line up. As far as no punishment, what did you expect? It's expensive to replace friends..er..Chiefs.
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    What's normal practice? Check in, then get your stuff straight for roll call? Maybe they're a little more relaxed and that's how things are normally done. We can say that you should show up ready to go, but we don't know what time the chief called for the line-up, either. Would the FF in question have been in the proper uniform and in place at the normal line-up?

    I agree - something a little off there. And the chief apparently doesn't have "lead by example" in his portfolio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tree68 View Post
    What's normal practice? Check in, then get your stuff straight for roll call? Maybe they're a little more relaxed and that's how things are normally done. We can say that you should show up ready to go, but we don't know what time the chief called for the line-up, either. Would the FF in question have been in the proper uniform and in place at the normal line-up?

    I agree - something a little off there. And the chief apparently doesn't have "lead by example" in his portfolio.
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    The station and crew should belong to the Captain, the chief is just a guest. If he had a problem, he should have mentioned it to the Skipper and waited for paper or whatever to be pushed back up to him.

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    Frankly, the firefighter handled the situation wrong. He should have looked at his Captain said "I want to contact EAP I feel unsafe in the workplace." Contacted EAP and his Union Steward. Infact, if he wanted to he could have contacted the police and reported that he was threatened with physical attack.

    The normal practice, chief running roll call, are all irrelevant to the fact that the chief made a physical threat to a line firefighter.

    The fact that the chief received ONLY a verbal reprimand does nothing to solve this problem. Can anyone tell me that they would expect the same level of "punishment" for a firefighter saying that to the chief?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    The normal practice, chief running roll call, are all irrelevant to the fact that the chief made a physical threat to a line firefighter.
    Totally agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trkco1 View Post
    You come to work ready to work, detailed or not. I do not condone using threats to get your point across but if the COD is in the house during roll call and inspection, it's a good idea to be in the proper uniform.
    I think this should be the precise attitude of the fighters in such a situation.

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    It gets better, this guy is a real Jewel.

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    LA might have more training than him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortion View Post
    I think this should be the precise attitude of the fighters in such a situation.
    While being dressed and ready for duty is proper, being threatened with physical violence for not being so is completely unacceptable and the punishment the chief received was a joke.
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    Sounds like the uniform thing was just one of many back and forth finger pointing and eventually the chief hung himself. That's a good thing he is gone now but a "non-supervisory role at the EOC" raises my spidey sense that he might try to return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickey View Post
    Sounds like the uniform thing was just one of many back and forth finger pointing and eventually the chief hung himself. That's a good thing he is gone now but a "non-supervisory role at the EOC" raises my spidey sense that he might try to return.
    Hand picked by the Mayor, of course he will be back. My bet is they are hustling him through some of the classes he needs so he can get back to being chief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Hand picked by the Mayor, of course he will be back. My bet is they are hustling him through some of the classes he needs so he can get back to being chief.
    The bad thing about this is in Ohio, a fulltime firefighter (FFII) only has to have 54 hours of continuing ed. every THREE years. And the Fire Chief of a dept. can say what qualifies for that dept.! He could go to FDIC and conferences and call it good.

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    Glad to see the fire chief of a major city has nothing better to do then this.
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