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    Hey guys! I have had a problem since fire school (I am a fresh graduate of FF1) of getting the line upstairs. I dont know if it is my partners when I am nozzleman, because I push that line up pretty damn quick (and I am a very slim kid) and they do well.

    When I am nozzleman, I pull with all my mite, and my partner is seemingly trying. Knock the fire down when I open up, close and then prepare to go down the stairwell. Now my partners are pulling the line so quick, im basically running down the stairwell. My *** gets chewed out because I should not run down stairs, but I did not want to lose contact with my nozzle


    TL : DR I want to know the best way to get the line up a stairwell. One from a nozzlemans perspective, and one of the backup man.

    I am afraid (the way my town is) I will get the big fire before my next burn trip and how quick I am Ill be on the Line seat and i **** up going up the stairs and hurt my partner. Help a brother out =]
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    I don't even know what you're asking. Is there a problem going UP the stairs? Or is it DOWN the stairs?

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    Okay going up the stairs...go uncharged if possible. Stockpile hose at the bottom of the steps as you go up. Charge the line before you enter the fire area. If you are going up the stairs charged again stockpile hose at the bottom of the steps space yourself out on the stairs, especially at corners. Move together as you move the hose, whether you are moving or just moving the hose if you don't work together the hose will not move efficiently if at all.

    Coming down stairs is simple, no one moves hose any faster than the nozzle man. At NO TIME EVER should the nozzleman be pulled, or the hose pulled out of their hand, by the rest of the crew on the hoseline.

    If that isn't the answer you want or need, clarify your question and I will try again.
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    That seems good, FyredUp. Thats what I been taught. I think it just completely dependent on whos the partner. Thanks brother

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    your description isnt exactly clear of what you are asking about. If you have a charged line which you are trying to advance up stairs you can try this. place the nozzle at your feet and then feed line up the stairs ahead of you by the time it falls over it should be halfway up the stairs then you can grab the nozzle and advance up the stairs and you shouldn't need to drag hose up. Having said this all of the little neat tricks and things are nice in training, but really when it comes down to it you need guys that are going to hump hose for you.

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    Here is a "traditional" method:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgG93kjTfCo

    Here is a "looped" or "coiled" method:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rxWFyq-11M

    This technique works pretty well for both flat and stairwell stretches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Here is a "traditional" method:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgG93kjTfCo

    Here is a "looped" or "coiled" method:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rxWFyq-11M

    This technique works pretty well for both flat and stairwell stretches.


    Nice videos....Thanks...With all sorts of advancements, these traditional methods are often overlooked

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    Call me crazy, but I just still call it the 2nd floor......
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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    Call me crazy, but I just still call it the 2nd floor......
    Yeah me too, but the latest NIMS calls the floors Divisions now. You know they have to change this stuff every couple of years to sell books and create new training courses.
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    And then they wonder why we tend to ignore them!
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    Basically homie, you need to talk to your crew members and work together. If they're going too fast, SLOW THEIR ASSES DOWN!!!! If you need help dragging the line up/down, freakin ask for it!!! The main thing here is to open your mouth. Communication is key when on the nozzle or backing someone up. Not too tough. Hang in there kid, and stay safe!!

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