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    Cool Swift water rescue class

    I just enrolled in a swift water rescue tech class which will be held at the Colorado River.

    Some of the PPE requirements are:
    • Water rescue Helmet
    • Water shoes that you can swim with and walk on rough terrain Ankle high
    • Water proof flashlight for a night drill
    • Swim wear

    Does anyone have any recommendations on any of the above mentioned items? Especially the water shoes.

    Thanks in advance


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    Well I called RockN Rescue about shoes and they suggested a NRS water shoe. The NRS attack shoe looks good to me. http://www.nrs.com/product/23011/nrs-attack-wetshoe
    Any thoughts on that one. Another firefighter I talked to suggested a spring weather wetsuit. Something like this http://www.hansensurf.com/billabong-...pringsuit.html

    Shoes are my main concern. It seems like a lot of money to spend for something I will only use a few times.

    Thanks

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    I am a Swiftwater Technician and use these boots from NRS http://www.nrsrescue.com/shop/produc...38&pdeptid=912 way better for your ankle and out in Swiftwater you wanna protect your ankles. Hope this is better..

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    Those shoes look hard to swim in, don't you swim a lot in training? I have no idea what to expect in the class, but my leg kicks are my best swimming part. The American crawl would seem hard to do in heavy boots. What swim stroke do you use? Thanks for the tip though, I will look into it further. Also I am on a limited budget.

    Thanks brother
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck&Rescue72 View Post
    I am a Swiftwater Technician and use these boots from NRS http://www.nrsrescue.com/shop/produc...38&pdeptid=912 way better for your ankle and out in Swiftwater you wanna protect your ankles. Hope this is better..
    Use these boots as well. Like them, good ankle support for when we have to go hiking along a creek looking for someone.
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    How well do they do once in the H2O?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelXYZ View Post
    How well do they do once in the H2O?
    Have no complaints with them in or out of water. I guess you don't have much experience (yet) with swimming in water PPE (PFD, wet suit, helmet, gloves and booties). Sure it is different from swimming around at a pool, but in the enviorments we train/operate in there is all kinds of sharps (rebar, glass, rocks...) that you are going to want to have the added protection. It is not like swimming with sneakers or boots on, they are pretty tight and form fitting, don't add much weight or resistance. Once you get used to it, swimming with all that extra garbage is like second nature.

    Enjoy the class.
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    Thanks Drew, and you are right, I have absolutely no experience in this area. I use to surf here in San Diego so I am a good swimmer. My BC told me I better beef up on my cardio so I been doing that. I bought the TRX suspension training system because that is what the VA Hosp uses and I can work a lot of my swim muscles.

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    I'll Back up what others have said, I use NRS paddlers gloves and the NRS workboot wet shoe for my SRT activites, in combination with a drysuit, have had no issues at all, the water drains extremely well from the gloves and the shoes.

    I also use the shoes when out scuba diving as they provide lots of support inside the fins compared to booties..

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    Based on the consensus, I will go with the above recommendations... Tell me more about these paddle gloves. I know they are webbed, whats a good one?

    Thanks all

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    mine aren't webbed?

    I use these: http://www.nrs.com/product/24401/nrs-paddlers-gloves.

    I have had no issues with them, they fit very snug, I have good dexterity even for gloves and they provide warmth which is good during winter. Just like my boots, I also use these out scuba diving. Over here, our average water temp in winter is between 10 degree C and about 16 degree C, so good fun.

    An alternative would be these: http://www.nrs.com/product/24391/nrs...-rescue-gloves

    I haven't used them personally but they would be pretty similar to my current ones, just a bit warmer due to thickness.

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    I'm also not sure what you plan on wearing whether you have a dry-suit or a wet-suit? but personally I did my first SFRO course in winter in a 5mm wetsuit and was pretty cold after a day at the river, and made the decision to purchase a dry-suit - best decision I ever made.

    There's a few different ones out there, NRS and OS Systems make some good gear, be worth looking into if your serious about SWR.

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    We will be on the Cali/Arizona border. August will still be hot so I am thinking a spring shorty suit. The location is Blythe Ca. We will be in the Colorado river, the one that made the Grand Canyon so I expect some pretty swift currents. In my surfing days I got pretty hammered by big waves, so I know I don't panic in rough water, but for me this is really uncharted territory, I have no idea what to expect. But heck, what does not kill ya makes you better...

    This will be a 5 day course and we will be doing some night operations, I need to find a waterproof headlamp too. This class is gonna cost me a few dollars. Wife is not to happy bout that
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    Don't underestimate the water temp over a long day, personally, if it is something you are seriously considering doing as part of FD operations, a dry suit will be a minimum regardless due to water contamination etc.

    I currently use a Petzl DUO 5 LED, though at 300g, its a bit weighty so I am looking for something lighter, it does the trick well though.

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    Sounds like good suggestions overall. We basically never get in the water without a drysuit. We use the NRS Extreme SAR drysuit http://www.nrsrescue.com/shop/produc...51&pdeptid=900 The protection from our water as well as abrasion protection is what we are going for.
    I like the NRS workboot. (It isn't very hard to swim in) We also use the NRS reactor gloves, I haven't found them too warm, It makes holding rope pretty easy. It looks like the NRS rescue gloves are made the same, just not as warm.

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    I personally use felt bottom booties with Scubapro JetFins. Our dept. stocks mostly the fancy hard bottom boot types but I find the felt bottoms offer the best anti-slip properties on slick rocks.

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