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    We are in the process of changing our SOP on patches that are allowed. Until now we could only wear our dept patch and EMT patch. For those of you that are allowed to wear other patches or rockers above your dept patch do you have a SOP dealing with the approval process? If anyone has one could you send me a copy of it?

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    Our Haz Mat team has a patch that they can wear on the right sleeve of their class B shirt. Most don't even wear that.

    I would suggest forming a uniform committee if you don't already have one. Include a Batt Chief just to show that you're legit. Discuss the changes to your uniform policy, send it to the line for a vote, then pipe it up to the Chief. The committee doesn't have to end there, it can serve to decide new turnout specs, wildland gear, boots, ( both structural and duty) and other uniform policy change requests.
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    Thanks for the reply snowball, the sop has been changed as far as allowing a patch other than the dept patch but my chief has asked me to find what other depts use as a standard for the approval.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    Our Haz Mat team has a patch that they can wear on the right sleeve of their class B shirt. Most don't even wear that.

    I would suggest forming a uniform committee if you don't already have one. Include a Batt Chief just to show that you're legit. Discuss the changes to your uniform policy, send it to the line for a vote, then pipe it up to the Chief. The committee doesn't have to end there, it can serve to decide new turnout specs, wildland gear, boots, ( both structural and duty) and other uniform policy change requests.
    I'd agree with Snowball.

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    I'll be at the station and will send you a copy of our policy for getting company patch approval, but it basically takes 9 signatures - all three shifts of company officers, Battalion Chiefs, & Division Chiefs to be submitted to the Command Staff for final approval.

    It is pretty much red tape - as long as the 3 company officers all agree, I don't think one has ever been rejected.

    Approval allows a company patch to be worn on job shirts and a decal on both sides of the apparatus.
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    GSD - didn't forget. We were busy most of the day and night. I'll be back in the morning and will see what I can find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    I'll be at the station and will send you a copy of our policy for getting company patch approval, but it basically takes 9 signatures - all three shifts of company officers, Battalion Chiefs, & Division Chiefs to be submitted to the Command Staff for final approval.

    It is pretty much red tape - as long as the 3 company officers all agree, I don't think one has ever been rejected.

    Approval allows a company patch to be worn on job shirts and a decal on both sides of the apparatus.
    It's the little things like the those mentioned above that build pride in the job.
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    GSD,

    This is all I could find so far out of our Rules & Regs book. I will continue to search for the memo.

    14. Company patches will require the signature approval of all Company Officers on all shifts, along with their respective Battalion Chiefs (all shifts). Thus, approval will require the signature of three (3) Company Officers and three (3) Battalion Chiefs; then final approval of the respective Division Chief, the Operations Chief, and the Director or Deputy Director (a total of 9 approval signatures). (Reference: Group Patch/Decal Policy 102.14)

    15. Company patches may be worn on the left sleeve, 1” below shoulder seam of the Navy Blue “Job” shirt. Only one (1) Company patch may be worn on the left sleeve.
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    Not sure of the exact wording, but I think I remember reading somewhere that here all company officers have to agree on the design and it has to be approved by the Operations Deputy. Wouldn't be surprised if the Senior Battalion Chief on each shift had to approve as well.

    Crews are authorized to wear the patch on right sleeve of uniform shirt and jobshirt. Also allowed to be placed on the rig or smaller decals on helmets, equipment, or personal vehicles.
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    Default Found the entire policy



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    As a general rule, only the department patch can be worn on uniforms. That being said the only "uniform" we have are Class A (full dress) and Class B (button down short sleeve). Each station used to have their own patches, and identities, but since we have all consolidated there is a push to have only one identity, and one uniform identify.

    That all being said, our jobs shirts, t-shirts, polos and jackets are not considered "uniforms" and as such, aren't subject to approval.

    If a company wants to design a patch or logo for one of the above items, typically all it requires is the station captain's approval, and if he gives the approval, than if you want to buy the item in question, you can.

    As much as I like having company pride, there does come a point when everyone having different uniforms (or patches on their uniform) mean they are no longer uniform.
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