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    Default Quirks in AFG Apps online....

    Most of the reps that teach workshops for the past couple of years mention this stuff since several of us have brought it up over the years.

    RIT SCBA: if you follow the app definition strictly RIT Pack is under Equipment not PPE. In the new format this means that you'd have to write a whole narrative about the RIT SCBA, separate from the SCBA you're requesting. Makes no sense and as many have found out recently, it will be scored separately and maybe not funded while the SCBA is. As such, request a 60min SCBA in the application's Request Details and put RIT SCBA in the description.

    Training related to a non-vehicle request: If you're asking for FF1 or FF2 with bunker gear, Vehicle Rescue with HRTs, or anything else like the PG says it needs to be entered as Additional Funding, not as a Training item. Otherwise they get scored separately and might not get funded. I've had a few people get comments back from field reps saying that they put the training in Additional Funding and not in Training, which is why it was denied. This is from Page 12 of the 2011 PG: "Reminder: When requesting training for any equipment, enter the training funding request under Additional Funding in the Request Details section."

    Page 30 in 2012 PG: "When requesting training for equipment, personal protective equipment, modifications to facilities, vehicles, EMS equipment, EMS personal protective equipment, or regional applications, your training request MUST be listed in the Other section under Additional Funding in the same category. For example, your department is requesting extrication equipment and you wish to receive formal training on the use of the new equipment. You would make this request in the line item area equipment but under Additional Funding, not Request Details Training."

    If you want training and only training unrelated to equipment it goes under Training.

    Just wanted to point this out since it seems to trip people up every year even though it's been out there for a couple of years if not longer.

    Now back to SAFER apps....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC79er View Post
    Page 30 in 2012 PG: "When requesting training for equipment, personal protective equipment, modifications to facilities, vehicles, EMS equipment, EMS personal protective equipment, or regional applications, your training request MUST be listed in the Other section under Additional Funding in the same category. For example, your department is requesting extrication equipment and you wish to receive formal training on the use of the new equipment. You would make this request in the line item area equipment but under Additional Funding, not Request Details Training."

    If you want training and only training unrelated to equipment it goes under Training.
    What if we are doing a regional training application? We are going for FF1, Driver operator, and HazMat OPS for 3 other PA departments and 3 NY departments. Wouldn't that just be under "Training"? The section about if it is part of a regional app is the reason I ask.

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    That would be a regular training application.

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    Sly said it, but also right underneath what you copied and pasted from my post is that very statement, training by itself goes under Training. Details will get you every time.

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    Looks like you cannot put RIT packs under PPE anymore.

    From the FOA:
    IMPORTANT: Improperly requesting an Operations and Safety activity will disqualify your request.
    - Do not request flashlights under PPE. Flashlights are equipment.
    - Do not request RIT packs under PPE. RIT packs are equipment
    - Do not request gear bags under PPE. Gear bags are equipment

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    Yeah, can see everything but RIT SCBA making an iota of sense but it is what it is. RIT packs are equipment bags filled with what RIT teams need to deploy with, not SCBA. 2 items are being lumped.

    And gee, I wonder if there will be a lot of flashlights and gear bags bought with that extra $10k in excess funds after everything else is bought... ....

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