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    Quote Originally Posted by sklump View Post
    Hey Don One of Chuck's rigs is for sale, 4 Qs
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    Quote Originally Posted by sklump View Post
    Hey Don One of Chuck's rigs is for sale, 4 Qs
    Can I be brutally honest with you about that rig? I felt from the time I first saw it that it was too big for practical rural use. I know for damn sure we couldn't get it in probably half of the farm or rural driveways we need to be in. So no thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squad50FF View Post
    Here are pictures of our hydraulic tool configuration and the rig itself. I'll try to upload more.
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    FyredUp,

    Extrication equipment going to be preconnected and on cord reel?

    Will there be an onboard generator? PTO or independent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    FyredUp,

    Extrication equipment going to be preconnected and on cord reel?

    Will there be an onboard generator? PTO or independent?
    We, as a committee haven't gotten that far yet. There has been discussion of eliminating and onbaord generator and going with LED scene lighting, including a light tower. Then we would carry a smaller portable generator for lighting the back of the scene.
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    I was asking because I have often wondered why if your going with cord reels and a PTO generator, why not go with electric motors for the extrication equipment - ready with the flip of a switch.

    You could always get a small, back up gas powered unit to run the tools if beyond the reach of the cord reels.

    Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    I was asking because I have often wondered why if your going with cord reels and a PTO generator, why not go with electric motors for the extrication equipment - ready with the flip of a switch.

    You could always get a small, back up gas powered unit to run the tools if beyond the reach of the cord reels.

    Just a thought.
    My career FD did just that and it was sweet. Just flip the geerator switch and BAM! you had power to the tools in a few seconds.

    If I had it to do over again I would have done that on POC FD #1's rescue engine.
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    We have had this in service a few months now. One thing we did was the roll ups over the pump panel to keep the pump module enclosed and out of the road grime of Vermont Winters. It's mission is MVA's and other fire ops as needed.

    An added benefit was that many of the adaptors etc can be mounted above the controls on Pak-Trac so it is point of use and frees up the L1 compartment space.

    We do have coffins (first for us) that we have put low use bulky items or multiples up there.

    We went with a light tower but the LED scene lights are impressive too. 3 per side 4000+ lumens per light. The Spectra brow light and Spectra on the pole on the back are very impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefDog View Post
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    We have had this in service a few months now. One thing we did was the roll ups over the pump panel to keep the pump module enclosed and out of the road grime of Vermont Winters. It's mission is MVA's and other fire ops as needed.

    An added benefit was that many of the adaptors etc can be mounted above the controls on Pak-Trac so it is point of use and frees up the L1 compartment space.

    We do have coffins (first for us) that we have put low use bulky items or multiples up there.

    We went with a light tower but the LED scene lights are impressive too. 3 per side 4000+ lumens per light. The Spectra brow light and Spectra on the pole on the back are very impressive.
    Looks like an HME cab...who built it and do you have more pictures? Of the compartment set-up and the hose beds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Looks like an HME cab...who built it and do you have more pictures? Of the compartment set-up and the hose beds?
    Looks like HME did the entire thing: http://www.firetrucks.com/new-deliveries/item/390/10054

    Now, on a somewhat unrelated note (and I apologize for possibly taking this off-track), but I've been an apparatus enthusiast for some time, but have never seen a ladder truck put together from a kit. ChiefDog, you have any more information about this thing? http://www.toledoblade.com/frontpage...ds-a-home.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxAlarm187 View Post
    Looks like HME did the entire thing: http://www.firetrucks.com/new-deliveries/item/390/10054

    Now, on a somewhat unrelated note (and I apologize for possibly taking this off-track), but I've been an apparatus enthusiast for some time, but have never seen a ladder truck put together from a kit. ChiefDog, you have any more information about this thing? http://www.toledoblade.com/frontpage...ds-a-home.html
    Sorry.... what you are referring to is Swanton, Ohio not Swanton, Vermont....

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Looks like an HME cab...who built it and do you have more pictures? Of the compartment set-up and the hose beds?
    Yes, this was an all HME truck, our second one. I have some pictures but not since we have put things on the truck. I will try to get some but very busy at work and home.

    We are still having some growing pains with placement of things. It's main mission is MVA, but it can also be a second engine / fill site engine.

    I will try to get more pictures soon.

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    Here are some pics not sure how great they are... they are of L3

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefDog View Post
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    Here are some pics not sure how great they are... they are of L3
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    R3 Compartment small electric pump, hydraulic reel and air reel, three ResQue Jacks

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    Front with brow light and preconnected suction and trash line.

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    Rear Picture early on I don't have a current one but it gives the basic idea... chevrons now completed on doors etc...

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    Are any departments specing booster reels on there new rescue pumpers, for wash downs, or are you going with front bumper discharges only ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodbridge View Post
    Are any departments specing booster reels on there new rescue pumpers, for wash downs, or are you going with front bumper discharges only ?
    Honestly I wish we had one on our rescue pumper at my #1 POC FD. It would be so handy for washdowns, grass fires, rubbish fires, and for washing off equipment after a call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodbridge View Post
    Are any departments specing booster reels on there new rescue pumpers, for wash downs, or are you going with front bumper discharges only ?
    We have found that the cost for the reel, hose and nozzle is almost double the cost of the trash line. The trash line being 1.75 and 100' rubber hose gives much more punch than the 1" booster. Forestry line is much easier and lighter on grass fires as well.

    We have not found that the benefit of a rewind reel is worth the additional cost for us. It might be for some. I personally felt it was worth putting that extra money into the LED scene lighting as it would get used more often then the reel. (IMO) But that is why we have committees and what works for us does not necessarily work for FyredUp and vice versa...
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    We use front trash line for whatever a booster reel did in the past. We also got a 1 3/4" adapter to garden hose thread. We have a short length of garden hose that we can hook up and use to wash tools off, refill water extinguishers, etc.
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    We have booster lines on most of our trucks and we use them quite often. Our newest rescue pumper has the booster line built into the front bumper. I will try to get some pics up tomorrow.

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