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    Default My best bud just got arrested for a DUI....

    So my best friend just recently had a dumbass night and got arrested for a DUI. Hes been asking me what the chances of getting hired still at a fire department are. Anybody have some insight I can share with him?


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    Quote Originally Posted by txag3256 View Post
    So my best friend just recently had a dumbass night and got arrested for a DUI. Hes been asking me what the chances of getting hired still at a fire department are. Anybody have some insight I can share with him?
    He can try prayer, I personally don't think it will help.

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    It may not entirely eliminate him but think about this possibility...It comes down to your friend with a DUI and another guy without. Everything else is comparable. Seriously, who would you hire? I know which one I would hire.
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    Tell him get a good lawyer and beat it

    Other than that check different city websites to see if they have their dis qualifiers listed
    Some will say no way some will say after so many years


    Ours is five years

    Oh yea tell him stay out of any more trouble even J walking

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    He could probably get on a volunteer department tonight. Background checks being mostly non-existent in my area. I would figure he would need to get his license back first. Between liability and insurance concerns I would figure it would be a tough call for any chief or city council.
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    1300 applicants --- 700 with clean spotless records --- we need 30

    There's the hard truth. If you really want that FD job stay clean and out of trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexfd5 View Post
    1300 applicants --- 700 with clean spotless records --- we need 30

    There's the hard truth. If you really want that FD job stay clean and out of trouble.
    Good advice.
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    There is a trust that must not be broken and we are the keepers of that trust.
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    Would you trust someone to drive and operate a piece of equipment that could cost several hundred grand if that person shows a lack of judgment? You gonna trust them to save lives and keep people safe if they put their life and others on the highway in danger unnecessarily?

    The person with the power to hire is accountable for who they hire. At some point this thought will come across their mind: "What if this person has an accident?" No one wants to see the headline "Firefighter with history of DUI drives fire truck into school bus, kills 20". Like was posted above, if there are other qualified applicants out there with clean records, no reason for anyone to stick their neck out by hiring someone who does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txag3256 View Post
    So my best friend just recently had a dumbass night and got arrested for a DUI. Hes been asking me what the chances of getting hired still at a fire department are. Anybody have some insight I can share with him?
    Is it you????
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    Is it you????
    Captain I'd say you've hit that nail on the head.

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    A guy at a volunteer department I use to be at got a DUI one night. He got a lawyer and plead his case to the Common wealth attorney about what a DUI could do to his volunteering and future career opportunities as a firefighter.

    So the Common wealth attorney gave him a plea deal. He had to serve one week in county jail, pay a $500 fine and court cost, plus participate in a 6 week long alcohol program. After all this the charge was reduced to a Improper driving charge (lower than reckless driving).

    As the other have said a DUI convection is almost a guaranteed no from any department for at least 5 to 7 years. The only option is to plead it to a lesser charge. This all depends on the prosecutor wanting to give a lesser charge and if the judge is willing to accept it.

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    txag3256...

    My advice for you, oops I mean your friend, is to keep his nose clean for as mentioned above, 5 to 7 years, and see what happens then. A DUI is definitely the kiss of death for many jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snarff View Post
    A guy at a volunteer department I use to be at got a DUI one night. He got a lawyer and plead his case to the Common wealth attorney about what a DUI could do to his volunteering and future career opportunities as a firefighter.

    So the Common wealth attorney gave him a plea deal. He had to serve one week in county jail, pay a $500 fine and court cost, plus participate in a 6 week long alcohol program. After all this the charge was reduced to a Improper driving charge (lower than reckless driving).

    As the other have said a DUI convection is almost a guaranteed no from any department for at least 5 to 7 years. The only option is to plead it to a lesser charge. This all depends on the prosecutor wanting to give a lesser charge and if the judge is willing to accept it.
    Our app asks if you have ever been arrested, not just convicted

    Plus the officers record is out there and sometimes shows up

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire49 View Post
    Our app asks if you have ever been arrested, not just convicted

    Plus the officers record is out there and sometimes shows up

    I dont know what the exact details of his plea was but, I know on while he was doing the week in jail, fine and alcahol meetings his record said that he had charges pending. After he met the requirements of the plea, he went back to the court the prosecutor said he met the requirements of the deal and the judge accepted it (all this took about a year). After that his record had no mention of his arrest, I guess it was expunged as part of the deal.

    What he did have was a improper driving ticket on his driving record which took 4 points off his licence which in of itself can keep you from getting employed as a firefighter with most departments if it falls below their requirements for insurance.

    Either way this guy got extremely lucky, he works for a paid department now and to this day he still doesn't drink alcohol anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snarff View Post
    I dont know what the exact details of his plea was but, I know on while he was doing the week in jail, fine and alcahol meetings his record said that he had charges pending. After the he met the requirements he went back to the judge the prosecutor said he met the requirements of the deal and the judge accepted it (all this took about a year). After that his record had no mention of his arrest, I guess it was expunged as part of the deal.

    What he did have was a improper driving ticket on his driving record which took 4 points off his licence which in of itself can keep you from getting employed as a firefighter with most departments if it falls below their requirements for insurance.

    Either way this guy got extremely lucky, he works for a paid department now and to this day he still doesn't drink alcohol anymore.
    Good to hear the job and no alcohol

    He might go to the pd that caught him ask for open records on his name to see if anything
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    Most places will have a five year disqualification in their hiring process for a DUI. If civil service, once the five years are up he will stand the same chance of anyone else and all will be dependent on his civil service exam. He will probably have to answer some questions about his DUI during a background investigation or chief's interview.

    He will have five years to come up with some good answers on how the incident opened his eyes, helped him grow interpersonally, or was the catalyst that helped him pick himself up and turned him into the man he is now.
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    I'm of the mindset that all convicted drunk drivers should loose their license for 5 years and spend a minimum of 3 years incarcerated in a work farm prison being trained to be a wallymart greeter.

    There is no excuse for drunk driving, get a ride with a friend, call a cab or just walk your drunk arse home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by islandfire03 View Post
    I'm of the mindset that all convicted drunk drivers should loose their license for 5 years and spend a minimum of 3 years incarcerated in a work farm prison being trained to be a wallymart greeter.

    There is no excuse for drunk driving, get a ride with a friend, call a cab or just walk your drunk arse home.
    Agree completely. Drinking and driving is no different than playing russian roulette with a revolver. Each drink is like putting a round in the chamber. It makes the hood ornament not much different than the front sight. And it points in the general direction of everyone it meets on the highway. It isn't whether someone gets hurt or not that makes, it's that someone had the chance of getting hurt that counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islandfire03 View Post
    I'm of the mindset that all convicted drunk drivers should loose their license for 5 years and spend a minimum of 3 years incarcerated in a work farm prison being trained to be a wallymart greeter.

    There is no excuse for drunk driving, get a ride with a friend, call a cab or just walk your drunk arse home.
    Honestly, you are too soft on drunk drivers. My plan would stop recidivism, but many claim it is too harsh...
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    I figure a life destined as a wally world greeter would be as bad as it gets. :-}

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