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    Our department is wanting a rescue rig for extricatio, but wevwould really like to have water on it like 300 gallons or so. Whst is our best option?


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    Uhhhhhhh......spec a rescue rig for extrication with 300 gallons of water and a pump on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    Uhhhhhhh......spec a rescue rig for extrication with 300 gallons of water and a pump on it?
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    Yeah, not to be blunt, but spec with a 300 gallon tank and a 125 to 500 GPM pump, depending on your needs. Take a look at the new rescue that Mechanicsville, MD just took delivery of it you want to see a VERY compact pump panel that still allows a lot of room.
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    or spec a rescue engine....serve 2 roles.
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    Get a mini pumper plain and simple!

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    I have to politely disagree with the previous two posters. If you've indentified that this going simply going to be a rescue with a small pump-and-tanker capability, you probably don't need all of the features of a rescue-pumper (less comparment space, hosebed, crosslays, etc). A mini-pumper is going to require you have to a second driver, another vehicle on the insurance policy, another vehicle to maintain, etc.

    I've seen a great number of rescues with pumps and tanks (heck, we have three here at work) which can still be a very effective rescue without compromising the overall mission of the vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperFire123 View Post
    Get a mini pumper plain and simple!
    Most mini-pumpers that I have come across are severely overloaded when you combine even the most basic level of suppression equipment with rescue equipment.

    Getting a mini-pumper for that type of duty is generally not the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Most mini-pumpers that I have come across are severely overloaded when you combine even the most basic level of suppression equipment with rescue equipment.

    Getting a mini-pumper for that type of duty is generally not the answer.
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    Here is what we are discussing because it is similar to our brush units.
    http://www.chieffire-safety.com/gallery
    It is one for Hale City Fire Dept. Next to last row first column.

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    Well that's about $500,000 less than what I thought you were talking about. If you're going to use something like that as a rescue, be very aware of the weight capacities of the body, rear axle, and chassis, especially if you're going to have a pump and tank on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slackjawedyokel View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHVansickle View Post
    Here is what we are discussing because it is similar to our brush units.
    http://www.chieffire-safety.com/gallery
    It is one for Hale City Fire Dept. Next to last row first column.
    Now the question remains- how much extrication equipment do you want to put on it? You start loading that chassis up with a body, a pump, 300 gallons of water and then throw on hose and equipment- yer gonna overload it. Keep the future in mind, too. Will you ever put anything else on it? Personally I would upgrade to a small rescue/squad style pumper.
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    I have heard the term "Velcro effect" thrown around. I think that especially applies to rescues. Not only will you want to throw on more of the "neat stuff" you find, but your department may take on more responsibilities and thereby more equipment.
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    We have 2 jaws, 1 spreader, pump, gererator, and then just small stuff (axes and hand tools).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHVansickle View Post
    We have 2 jaws, 1 spreader, pump, gererator, and then just small stuff (axes and hand tools).
    But what will you have 5 years from now ?
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    This truck with some upgrades could fill your needs for a number of years.
    http://www.fentonfire.com/mini__midi...g.php?lid=5110

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    Some manufacturers offer a High pressure or Ultra high pressure system that requires little space and little water to handle any car fires. If this is what the intention was for car fire use, this may be an option for you.

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