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    Default Police taze father trying to save 3 year old son from house fire

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ave-child.html

    I am just looking to see the differing opinions of those that have been in this job longer than I have. Not trying to offend, just hear different perspectives.

    Thanks for the input.

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    Normally do not second guess police, their job is hard enough, unless it is known that they messed up.

    Do not have the full details/ timeline

    So they let him go back in and he dies, police still make the news


    Kind of like second guessing firefighters

    What if the firefighters were there prior to the police, and dad wanted to go in?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire49 View Post
    Normally do not second guess police, their job is hard enough, unless it is known that they messed up.

    Do not have the full details/ timeline

    So they let him go back in and he dies, police still make the news


    Kind of like second guessing firefighters

    What if the firefighters were there prior to the police, and dad wanted to go in?????
    You never can say for sure unless you were there, but if the FD I am part of was on scene. I would have tried my best to get him in a "bear hug" while I was trying to explain that we had protective gear on and that we stood the best possible chance of saving him. We would have PD on the way and I have been known to recruit neighbors to assist in calming people. And for the record , I have been punched and clawed restraining folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slackjawedyokel View Post
    And for the record , I have been punched and clawed restraining folks.
    No means no when are you going to learn.

    The cops likely didn't just taze the man it probably escalated to that point. Which is also a bummer because this guy laying on the ground doing the funky chicken has some very valuable information concerning layout and likely location of the child that you aren't going to get now. Lets not forget we all know how newspapers always get the entire story, all the facts and never are biased. I don't believe we have enough information to even start to second guess the decisions which were made in a incredibly tough incident.

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    This was a lose/lose situation for that cop and personally I feel for him and his department.

    As usual, I'm sure there is stuff we don't know. If the parents ran out and called 911 on the way out and the page was sent out immediately it was 0058. This does not look to be a large structure so if the step father immediately went to the front door and kicked it in the cop had to be right there or a very short distance away to be able to park, exit the vehicle, approach the structure and engage the man before he could re enter the structure.

    When the cop arrived one life was (probably) already lost. If he lets the step father go in there would most likely be two fatalities and the cop would be blamed for the second one because he didn't stop the step father. The family would be wanting to sue regardless of the decision he made.

    Just simply a bad deal all the way around.

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