01-29-2014, 12:44 AM #51
Just got back from Detroit, and the National Firefighter Endowment equipment distribution. Visiting the 14 stations was a real eye opener. Everyone we talked to, from the basic firefighters to the Chief of the Department, have great attitudes, but they are faced with lots of challenges.
Can you imagine how many hoops had to be jumped through to make this happen? The city had to sign off, the FD had to sign off, the Union had to sign off, the Health and Safety committee had to sign off.
One of the stations was ecstatic that be brought them 30 pairs of firefighting gloves. They had just exhausted their supplies, they had nothing but damaged gloves to use, and no clue when the city would get them some more.
Another showed me how they had siliconed holes in their boots, and then when the boots cracked at the flex point above the ankle, they just got wet. He had been asking for new boots for a long time. Rubber boots where all they had.
We were warned to make sure that we put the items directly into the hands of the firefighters, and we did so. Basic PPE, and hand tools were the biggest items.
A great bunch of guys, with a great attitude, in a crappy situation.
01-30-2014, 06:11 PM #52
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01-30-2014, 11:39 PM #53
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The solution is simple.
Local communities handle local emergency services.
No more grants for fire, police or EMS including Homeland Security money.
01-31-2014, 08:13 AM #54
Part of me thinks it was a great idea- get them the equipment they need.......Part of me also thinks it should not have been done. The City of Detroit should have gotten them their equipment. And if the City won't get it for them, then they should just flat out refuse to do their jobs, period."Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."
02-02-2014, 12:20 AM #55
Im just gonna dummy this one down. Our brothers need help and equipment. Which may just keep DFD from having a LODD related to understaffing, broken trucks, and worn out equipment. Federal, and State governments give away absurd amounts of money to less worthy causes. Whether or not Detroit is able to pull out of its financial decline is yet to be determined, but at least now our brothers have a fighting chance to properly protect the city while the dipshizts running the city try to turn things around.
02-02-2014, 09:32 AM #56
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Ok -where I live a large percentage of people move/live here for the lower property taxes and little regulations. As a result , in many places fire/emergency services are "substandard" - when the local fire services play the poor me / underfunded card, do you think they should be subsidized also??
02-02-2014, 10:09 AM #57~Drew
USAR TF Rescue Specialist
02-02-2014, 12:53 PM #58"Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."
02-02-2014, 01:25 PM #59
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- Rural Wisconsin, Retired from the burbs of Milwaukee
Time for the Detroit Firefighters to join the ranks of their rural FD Brothers and Sisters and start running chicken dinners, raffles, dances, car washes, and more, to fund their needed equipment. Run it thought a seperate organization so the city can't touch the money.
We do it all the time and it seems to be okay with the majority here on FH.com, so why not?Crazy, but that's how it goes
Millions of people living as foes
Maybe it's not too late
To learn how to love, and forget how to hate
02-05-2014, 01:23 PM #60
I could not care less about the politics of Detroit. What I do care about is the people on the front lines who are doing their best to save lives and property in Detroit. When the money runs out, so will the donations, so it is not a long term fix, and I think that anyone with half a shred of common sense will know that - but of course people with half a shred of common sense would not have put the city in the situation that it is.
Should it not have been done? I was cautious at first - I tend to try to help more rural departments first, but after talking with these guys, seeing how bad it really is, I will do all I can to help.
The only politics I even thought about is how much it must get ****burger that part of the group was composed of volunteer firefighters..... I rolled on the floor thinking about how that must burn his arse
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