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    I have read the NFPA definitions of Automatic and Mutual Aid. The only difference I see is one is a plan and the other is a written agreement. In our area aid is established and sent by box alarms via a county dispatch on the initial assignment. I currently have all of our aid numbers in the automatic aid boxes with nothing in the mutual aid boxes. Is this correct? There is no difference to us between automatic or mutual aid. I don't understand why they broke it down like this in the app or why it makes a difference.

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    Automatic aid is when you are dispatched on a standardized box alarm. Mutual aid would be an example of a zeppelin crashing in your area and calling for units you would not normally have on an initial standard alarm.

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    Well, everything we respond on is through predetermined box alarms. Doesn't matter if it is the initial alarm or the 5th alarm. No space ship crashes lately but I guess I will go through and see. 99.9 percent is automatic. Seems like an unnecessary breakout of data to me. Should just be aid given and received.

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    Automatic is only the initial dispatch, i.e. first alarm. So it's not automatic for additional tankers after you get there and decide you need them, it's a conscious decision to call for more. Essentially anything after the initial dispatch is mutual aid, 2nd alarm, etc.

    So in Dr. Sly's example, the downed aircraft dispatch is bringing in automatic aid of 2 rescues, 2 tankers, and 3 additional pumpers. You get there and realize you've gone back in time because it's a Zeppelin, and after explaining to a bunch of younger people at dispatch what a Zeppelin is, you tell them you want 3 foam trucks. That's mutual aid from there on out.
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    So in Dr. Sly's example, the downed aircraft dispatch is bringing in automatic aid of 2 rescues, 2 tankers, and 3 additional pumpers. You get there and realize you've gone back in time because it's a Zeppelin, and after explaining to a bunch of younger people at dispatch what a Zeppelin is, you tell them you want 3 foam trucks. That's mutual aid from there on out.[/QUOTE]

    I needed that this morning.

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    I think someone has been burning the midnight oil for way to long! That was funny Brian
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    would that be LED Zepplin :-}







    Yes I really do know what you were referring to Brian, I'm old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by islandfire03 View Post
    would that be LED Zepplin :-}







    Yes I really do know what you were referring to Brian, I'm old.

    OMG.. He said it...

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    In just over 3 months I won't be 40, I'll be 39.95 plus shipping and handling....

    And yes, I was burning the 2-3am oil all week, but that's when the mind is the most free to be creative. Works well in narratives. Except the last night, never went to bed on Thursday, just stayed up until Friday night. Had to more for tradition than anything else. Wouldn't be AFG if there wasn't an all-nighter in it.

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