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    Default volunteer firefighters vs city council on spending

    We are a city owned Volunteer fire department with a yearly city budget but we also have a donation account. All spending not in the yearly budget has to go before the city council to be approved. Every year they have been considering turnout gear a capital improvement and cutting it from the budget. We also need two thermal imagers and two AED's. We have the money in the donation account but each time we go to the council and propose buying anything that is not in the budget they vote us down on it. They continually refuse to let us spend any money to get the thermal imagers, AED's and continue to cut our turnout gear out of the budget. At one meeting I pointed out that by using out of date turnout gear if anyone got injured or killed and there would be a good chance they could sue us and win. The council told us if that happened they would get sued anyway so what was the difference. with that kind of attitude what can we do???????????

    We have been applying for the AFG grants but so far we have not gotten it. We are very frustrated but we have not lashed out or gotten out of line with the council we are trying our best to keep a good working relationship.


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    Stack the deck with pro FD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire49 View Post
    Stack the deck with pro FD?
    Thats what we finally had to do! Myself included there are now 3 of us on the council that are current or former firefighters.

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    Explain the donation account.
    "This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?

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    have the donaters donate directly to the supplier

    once an item has enough money, supplier gives it to donater who gives it to fire dept??????

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    Set up a 501c3 non-profit for people to donate to which exists to benefit the FD. Your city council cannot control their activities. Also if you have been unsuccessful with AFG then maybe its time you talked to one of us in here. P.M. me.
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    Sorry I am late to the party on this one. Had kind of a similar situation when our board tried to seize our fund-raiser monies. As Kurt advised, set up a 501C3 additionally structure your by-laws so that a department officer cannot be president or treasurer or single signer on the account for the 501c3.

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