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    I have a quick question, what are you all using in a front bumper hose load that is easy to deploy? We are currently using an accordion load that is a little difficult to deploy quickly and possibly one day will get charged in the tray. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvfd2167 View Post
    I have a quick question, what are you all using in a front bumper hose load that is easy to deploy? We are currently using an accordion load that is a little difficult to deploy quickly and possibly one day will get charged in the tray. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
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    Ditto to what Memphis E34A's FD does... ours is a 100 feet of 1.75" flat loaded. We call it the junk line, used for trash fires, small outside fires, etc.
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    At work, we do a 100' flat load.

    At the VFD, we do two 50' double-donut rolls coupled together. Works well for low-manpower situations.
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    Our front bumper has a full width croasslay bed. We load them flat with ears on the second layer at at 100 feet for ease of deployment. This is a double crosslay bed with both having 200 feet of 2 inch hose.

    At my career FD we had a front cube style drop in box and what we did there was load the first layer across the bottom with ears that stuck up out of the box about a foot. Then the rest of the load was flat loaded on top of that. When you wanted to use that line you stuck your arms in the ears pulled the whole load out and dumped it on the ground. It was easier to advance like that than just grabbing the nozzle and trying to pull it out of the box. Ours was a 100 foot section of rubber hose, more or less a trash line.
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    Search the webs for "front bumper hose loads."

    You'll end up with more options than you may want to evaluate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Our front bumper has a full width croasslay bed. We load them flat with ears on the second layer at at 100 feet for ease of deployment. This is a double crosslay bed with both having 200 feet of 2 inch hose.

    At my career FD we had a front cube style drop in box and what we did there was load the first layer across the bottom with ears that stuck up out of the box about a foot. Then the rest of the load was flat loaded on top of that. When you wanted to use that line you stuck your arms in the ears pulled the whole load out and dumped it on the ground. It was easier to advance like that than just grabbing the nozzle and trying to pull it out of the box. Ours was a 100 foot section of rubber hose, more or less a trash line.
    we use the same-(as your career -except two 50' sticks of 1/3-4" - very handy to grab to extend a cross lay (we use break aparts)
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    This is the load we use except our tray is center of the bumper and a little larger. Pretty simple grab the nozzel with one hand and the two ears with the other and and go. Ours is 100 feet pre-connect of 1 3/4" with a donut roll of 50ft sitting behind dead incase you need to had another section.

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    We had a 100' length of 1.75" made for us that we accordian load onto the tray on the bumper. Easily deployed by one member.
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    We have 100' of 1 3/4" hose loaded in a square box, roughly 36" x 18" x 14". We load the hose in a flat load but we leave a pull loop sticking out of the box. The loop is located 1/3 of the way from the hose connection to the rig. Once the rest of the hose is flat loaded in we tuck the loop into the end of the bale. When we pull the line we grab the nozzle and the loop, 100' of hose pulls out in 33' like a triple layer load. We like it.

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    We run two 200 ft. "bumper rolls" connected to a gated wye. The position of the couplings allow us to quickly transition from a 50 trash line to a full 400 ft. 1.75" if needed with any increment of 50 in between. Each 200 ft. is in a box approx 24x18x18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golzy12 View Post
    We have 100' of 1 3/4" hose loaded in a square box, roughly 36" x 18" x 14". We load the hose in a flat load but we leave a pull loop sticking out of the box. The loop is located 1/3 of the way from the hose connection to the rig. Once the rest of the hose is flat loaded in we tuck the loop into the end of the bale. When we pull the line we grab the nozzle and the loop, 100' of hose pulls out in 33' like a triple layer load. We like it.
    Do you happen to have any pictures of that particular load? I'm going to try all the different loads and see which one works the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvfd2167 View Post
    Do you happen to have any pictures of that particular load? I'm going to try all the different loads and see which one works the best.
    I'll try to get a pic when I get back to work in a few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvfd2167 View Post
    I have a quick question, what are you all using in a front bumper hose load that is easy to deploy? We are currently using an accordion load that is a little difficult to deploy quickly and possibly one day will get charged in the tray. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
    We've been using that same load for years without a problem. The operator doesn't charge the line until it's all out, and they visually confirm that. If a pump operator can't handle a simple function like that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    At my career FD we had a front cube style drop in box and what we did there was load the first layer across the bottom with ears that stuck up out of the box about a foot. Then the rest of the load was flat loaded on top of that. When you wanted to use that line you stuck your arms in the ears pulled the whole load out and dumped it on the ground. It was easier to advance like that than just grabbing the nozzle and trying to pull it out of the box. Ours was a 100 foot section of rubber hose, more or less a trash line.
    Good idea, I may try it. The only problem is that the other shifts are guaranteed to either bitch about it, never reload it that way, or both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    Good idea, I may try it. The only problem is that the other shifts are guaranteed to either bitch about it, never reload it that way, or both.
    you can slide your arms through the loops and carry it pretty easily if you need to extend another line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    At my career FD we had a front cube style drop in box and what we did there was load the first layer across the bottom with ears that stuck up out of the box about a foot. Then the rest of the load was flat loaded on top of that. When you wanted to use that line you stuck your arms in the ears pulled the whole load out and dumped it on the ground. It was easier to advance like that than just grabbing the nozzle and trying to pull it out of the box. Ours was a 100 foot section of rubber hose, more or less a trash line.
    We do that also, call it "dog ears". Easy to pick up and toss "The Trash Line" as we call it. Our's is a 100' 1&3/4 with a smoothbore slug on it, and we have an adjustable tip in the trash line compartment if our firefighter wants to switch to it for a car fire or something.
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    We only have a bumper line on our heavy rescue (yes I know, a heavy rescue with a pump? Orders of previous chief...discussion for another thread)

    We have 100' of 1.5" that we have not used on a real call yet in 6 years that we have had the truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    Good idea, I may try it. The only problem is that the other shifts are guaranteed to either bitch about it, never reload it that way, or both.
    Believe me Brother I fought that battle for years. Finally I jusst stopped fighting and when it was reloaded wrong I just unloaded it and reloaded it right. Much less stress that way.
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    Typically we have a 100' of 1.75" in flat loaded into a cube. Nothing fancy as in most cases its used for trash fires, vehicles, and/or maybe a model T garage. With that, it's one guy on the nozzle/line and the other to flake it out and do whatever else is needed.
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    I guess I should explain that our 2-200 foot 2 inch bumper preconnects are our primary attack lines. They are set up exactly the same as over the pump crosslays would be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPFDRum View Post
    Typically we have a 100' of 1.75" in flat loaded into a cube. Nothing fancy as in most cases its used for trash fires, vehicles, and/or maybe a model T garage. With that, it's one guy on the nozzle/line and the other to flake it out and do whatever else is needed.
    "model T garage"???

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    Quote Originally Posted by captnjak View Post
    "model T garage"???
    My district has a bunch of homes from the late 1800's to early 1900's, when the car first became the rage, a great many of these homes built basically a large shed to house the new family car, which in many cases was a Ford Model T. Many of them are still around, even in their original form; man door door and single window(maybe) on the back wall, double swing door on the front, alley, side, just large enough for the car.
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    Thanks for the response.

    That's what I was picturing, just never heard the term.

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