1) Ok, just comparing Europe to US like i said, we do tend to many things wiser and safer over here.
2) It s good to see more European ideas being adopted in the US.:-)
3) It may be different to US ideas, remember when US engines were open cab and men were hanging on back steps, look at the change now.
Your messages were derogatory and attacking methods and equipment in the US. That is plain and simple. Maybe it comes across that way because English isn't your first laguage, I don't know.
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12-30-2013, 11:41 AM #21
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01-10-2014, 01:15 PM #22
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The only seats needed on a apparatus are in the cab to get the crew to the scene safely. A seat for a aerial engineer is like a arm chair fire fighter,useless ! Fire ground operations are fluid, not some video game! Do not give me the line European firefighters are better and are more safe ,the job is the same all over the world and not one country is better! Firefighters from all countries risk life daily trying to keep the red dragon from consuming life and property.
01-10-2014, 02:07 PM #23
I'm gonna have to agree with a lot of the guys here. Seats for Aerial Ladder operators here in the US have no real place. Of all the times I've operated our Ladder at the scene of a working fire, I cannot think of a single time that I've just stayed put behind the controls and watched my guy up on the tip work. If I'm not helping to co-ordinate fire suppression from where I'm standing on the turn table. I'm on the ground helping throw ground ladders, or helping getting the next truck company set up in a good position.
I understand that there are different methods and technologies over across the pond in Europe. And hey thats cool! Those are things you folks have developed over hundreds and hundreds of years fighting fire. But remember, we've also had hundreds of hundreds of years to develop our OWN methods and Technologies to fight fire over here in the United States. There are some huge differences over here that dictate why we do the way we do things. To try and list them all would take forever.Opinions expressed by myself here are just that, mine. And not that of ANY organization or service I am affiliated with.
01-10-2014, 06:18 PM #24
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How does a seat restrict you from doing any of those activities?
01-10-2014, 06:45 PM #25
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01-11-2014, 09:42 AM #26
It doesn't so much restrict anyone from doing that, as much as it just leaves it useless or impractical. If I'm not gonna have the time to sit down, then why even have a seat in the first place? Its not a matter of what the seat will or will not allow you to do, its a matter of even needed it in the first place.Opinions expressed by myself here are just that, mine. And not that of ANY organization or service I am affiliated with.
01-16-2014, 11:12 AM #27
The USA is very advanced in firefighting. Some thing you guys overseas will never be seen in the USA departments.
I did by the way try out a truck with a seat by the aerial at a display, but to told the salesman, that I prefer to stand and know what I was doing and not to sit.Stay Safe and Well Out There....
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