I don't understand this. Do you go to another department and train with their air packs? What if yours or theirs are newer? Wouldn't that be the same as different brands?
Originally Posted by ruxpin62
Isn't that the whole point of the UAC? It doesn't matter what brand of pack or RIT you are using, they can all be connected the same. If you are using MSA RIT, you can't hook up to a Scott facepiece. And as for common practice, that goes completely against all RIT training I have had. They all state to use the UAC unless you carry an RIT facepiece, or it is your RIT pack and airpack.
2 - RIT scenarios - If your mutual aid RIT team is called into action for one of your members being down and they bring in another manufacturer's RIT Pack, will it be compatible with your SCBA utilizing anything other than the UAC wand? Will they be able to place the RIT regulator onto your member's facepiece? (With AVON, it is a permanently affixed facepiece which negates this common practice). Can the RIT team readily tell what / if there is a problem with the downed member's SCBA since they're not familiar with the equipment?
They also state not to try and fix the downed firefighter's pack, but to remove them from the danger.
We have 13 packs. We have fewer than 10 that can go interior right now. If there is an emergency outage that requires a large number of packs to be out of service, they will supply loaner units. This is the same that the MSA, Scott, and Draeger salesmen told us as well.
3 - Spare equipment - If your department has any / many SCBA out of service for some reason, can you borrow from a neighbor if they're using something different?
Oh, and we do train with them so that when and if we ever needed to, we could use their SCBA. half are using Scott and half are MSA.
Yes. Again we train with our neighbors and are familiar with their packs. First choice - obviously not, otherwise we would have purchased those packs. The last time that did happen, I stayed outside and acted in a sector command role. If we are going on mutual aid, we make sure we have more packs than people going. This could only happen at our own fires. As half our interior people are officers, they can easily take command positions rather than attack roles.
4 - On scene usage - If you're at a scene and have more personnel that SCBA, can you borrow one from a neighbor if they're using something different? Probably not.
No more of a gimmick than one brand offering "free" spare cylinders, or extra facepieces, or an RIT pack. They send us the batteries and we replace them every 6 months. If we replace the batteries, we don't have issues. So I am not sure that it is "covering up" other issues they may have.
As for the free battery thing... is this a gimmick to get your business, or is it covering up other issues with their product? You definitely get what you pay for.
We have had these packs for almost 5 years now and are very happy with them. If they were all lost and insurance would buy us new packs, we would probably go the same route.