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    Default New Pierce model?

    Is Pierce building something new?

    http://www.piercemfg.com/en/Home.aspx


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    Go to FDIC and find out!

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    If you go to FDIC don't forget your prayer rug and drool bucket!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    If you go to FDIC don't forget your prayer rug and drool bucket!!!
    Whatever...

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    Timeless Reliability. One can hope for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    Timeless Reliability. One can hope for that.
    Too bad it hasn't happened since they stopped building the Mack CF!

    (How's that for stirring the pitcher of the kool aid drinkers?)
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    timeless reliability, as long as the paint doesnt fall off and the electronics crap out.

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    Red face

    Maybe it's a Pierce cab, built on a Mack CF chassis and drive train like Sutphen, did a few years back!

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    It mentions more space, so maybe it's rear engine. That's already been done. We know it's something we've already seen, but now "BETTER".

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    FiredUP, I agree. We have now reached the point where a decision must be made between keeping a '79 CF with a Saulsbury rebuilt body, and a '92 Pierce/ CAT/ Watrous that has a 10 man cab. Reserve engine is first due for forest & brush, so the maneuverability becomes primary. Would love to keep the 35 year old Mack, but I don't think the town fathers would understand the reasoning. But then... The '48 "L" with a walk through hose body made it to 2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuh shise View Post
    FiredUP, I agree. We have now reached the point where a decision must be made between keeping a '79 CF with a Saulsbury rebuilt body, and a '92 Pierce/ CAT/ Watrous that has a 10 man cab. Reserve engine is first due for forest & brush, so the maneuverability becomes primary. Would love to keep the 35 year old Mack, but I don't think the town fathers would understand the reasoning. But then... The '48 "L" with a walk through hose body made it to 2000.
    Keep the Mack CF. I wish my #1 POC FD had. The used Pierce they bought to replace it has been a story all unto itself. I believe the money they spent for the Pierce would have kept the Mack in service for another 10 or 15 years. But what do I know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Too bad it hasn't happened since they stopped building the Mack CF!

    (How's that for stirring the pitcher of the kool aid drinkers?)
    Yeah I miss the old days of suffering hearing loss from a screaming engine and siren, and being baked in the summer and frozen in the winter, no room, just a lap belt (maybe), and no roll over protection what so ever...

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    Your soft. We get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsb View Post
    Yeah I miss the old days of suffering hearing loss from a screaming engine and siren, and being baked in the summer and frozen in the winter, no room, just a lap belt (maybe), and no roll over protection what so ever...
    Dude, get over yourself. My comment was more about reliability than creature comforts. There are Mack CFs that were built in the early 70's still in service some having been refurbed a couple of times. How much you want to bet that the odds of many of these computer operated, electronic nightmares, will be running, let alone in service in 40 years?

    Is air conditioning and heat nice? Of course it is, but generations of firefighters before us fought fire without them. Are seat belts and better constructed custom cabs better for safety? Of course they are, but until they ban commercial chassis with add on "phone booth" passenger and pump operator compartments don't pat yourself on the back too hard about roll over safety. Screaming engines and sirens, yeah well, long before we had insulated cabs and relocated sirens we had ear muffs. God life was tough in those days. Good thing you didn't have to suffer the misery of it.

    As for me I loved those old rigs that you didn't need a laptop computer and an electronic engineering degree to fix. A good chunk of the time if something went wrong an inhouse mechanic could fix it, and if not, the mechanic at the apparatus repair center didn't sit their for 3 days chasing electrical shorts and BS trying to find where some wire got crossed or what computer went nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodbridge View Post
    Maybe it's a Pierce cab, built on a Mack CF chassis and drive train like Sutphen, did a few years back!
    Here it is... the Mack/Sutphen.
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    In April we will tell.......................ple asantly surprised!

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    Default New Pierce Chassis

    Lower frame rails on this new chassis will finally make the floor in the rear cab flat. Longer cab from 67" to 70" more leg room in the back. Non-multiplexed. One piece windshield like the ugly CF. Smaller engine housing cover in the cab. Much like the Saber but with TAC4.

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    Will this new Pierce chassis be priced like the old Saber, or higher priced like the CF chassis ? Will Pierce discontinue building any of there present chassis cabs??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodbridge View Post
    Will this new Pierce chassis be priced like the old Saber, or higher priced like the CF chassis ? Will Pierce discontinue building any of there present chassis cabs??
    Dude, are you serious? Every time Pierce comes out with something new YOU pay for their amazing engineering. So what do you think the pricing will be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyChiefGonzo View Post
    Here it is... the Mack/Sutphen.
    Slight correction to Woodbridge's post, this was not a CF chassis. It was a conventional cab chassis so the doghouse was huge. I've got a copy of the brochure they made up on my desk. I can post it on Monday if anyone's interested. Not sure this is the best thread for it though...

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