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    I have a conditional offer for a FD dependent on a medical exam. I know they use the isaharia exam which I can't pass. I have talked to my own eye doctor and referenced the latest NFPA 1582 medical disqualifications which have recently removed color deficiency from the category B list. Just wondering if anyone has been able to get a second opinion for a medical exam and still receive a job and the steps you took?


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    http://www.cortland-co.org/ccfire/NFPA%201582.pdf
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    Does the dept publish their disqualifiers online or other?

    Other thing is go through the process and see what happens

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    I filled out a pre-medical form when I accepted the conditional offer, which stated that I must pass a vision test that included the isaharia eye exam.

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    I'm colorblind. Some departments were cool with it. Some weren't. The department I got hired with used ishihara but I talked with them in advance and showed them nfpa. The dr accepted that. I would just push that. There has never been an instance where color deficiency has come into play at work. I went as far as to see my own eye doc who would say that as long as I can see red or green the tests don't have any determination on my job abilities. Push the nfpa.

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    Thank you. That's what I plan on doing as well. I had an evaluation with my dr who wrote a letter quoting the NFPA. I've worked as a reserve for over 3 years and there hasn't been one instance where I've needed to decipher colors (other than dark smoke vs light smoke).
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrible one View Post
    Thank you. That's what I plan on doing as well. I had an evaluation with my dr who wrote a letter quoting the NFPA. I've worked as a reserve for over 3 years and there hasn't been one instance where I've needed to decipher colors (other than dark smoke vs light smoke).
    A letter from your reserve chief stating no problem might go a long way

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    I agree. Thank you.
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    I was told during my pre-employment medical that I was red-green color blind much to my surprise. Somehow in 29 years no eye doctor informed me of that. Initially I was told by the Occ Health Doc that it would exclude me from being hired according to 1582. I did a lot of research and didn't give up. A few days later they called me and gave me a second screening and she was satisfied that my color deficiency would not hurt me on the job after running me through some tests including using all of the TICs we carry. She also tested me by pointing at different colored hoses and asking what I saw. It was pretty silly. Thankfully I had a Chief that was willing to fight for me a little bit, because I know the doc would've had no problem tossing me.
    I think what it comes down to is how the department doctor wants to view NFPA 1582. I may be wrong, but I believe 1582 refers to black-white color deficiency as an excluding factor and does not specifically mention other deficiencies.

    Best of luck to you my color deficient brother!!

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    Were there any questions on any paperwork/applications asking about color blindness or eye problems?

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    Nothing on the application, just the pre-medical form.

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    The only problem I ever ran into was a doc told me that since I was color blind, I obviously see in black & white and therefore couldn't read traffic signals and couldn't be a paramedic for DC EMS. After getting certification from my eye doc saying, not only did I not see in black and white, but I also pass the visual qualifications to fly an airplane! DCEMS took his word for it and I was hired.

    I have grown to hate those tests. Beyond the first one or two, I'm lost!

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    How did the medical go terrible one?

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