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    We still have about 30-40 would-be first timers, some have applied 5-12 times, others this is their first application ever. With all the radios and proclaimed interoperability sometimes mutual aid departments don't talk to each other about making improvements or helping each other out with grant applications. Or in many cases, even mentioning that the grants are out there. Money makes people do things that don't always make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC79er View Post
    Money makes people do things that don't always make sense.
    Truer words were never spoken...

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    We have a pending award for vehicle replacement when looking into it I found where one of the next steps is a confirmation of vehicle inventory? Can someone pleae explain this? I am guessing it is just a review of information inputed on the application to confirm accuracy? Or have people blatantly lied on the application to get an award in the past?

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    Where are you seeing this confirmation?

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    Or have people blatantly lied on the application to get an award in the past?
    Gee, would this ever happen???

    http://www.fireengineering.com/artic...ant-fraud.html
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    I reviewed the original 2013 presentation for awards and noticed it in there.

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    I'm still not quite sure what document you're referencing. Do you have a link or something you can share? I'd like to give you a good answer but want to be sure I'm understanding what you are seeing.

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    None of our vehicle folks had to fill anything out yet, including the already awarded ones. DHS reviews prior apps, social media, etc, to figure out if anyone's faking their inventory. In talking with a rep at FDIC they did catch someone applying for a new truck and yet on their web page is a brand new one they took delivery of after the application was submitted. Of course the app was turned down during said tech review, probably at least an email or phone call dropped to the department about lying on a federal document too....

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    http://www.fema.gov/media-library-da...esentation.pdf

    Page 74 has this note,

    Accurate vehicle inventory is required and will be validated by
    FEMA prior to any award.


    I am not concerned was just curious what it was all about.

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    Found a Pumper 1199a for a first timer - Rural VFD. Last time I checked was Friday evening. This will be a double award for them, equipment 1199a posted about 3 weeks ago. First double award for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFD-Paul View Post
    http://www.fema.gov/media-library-da...esentation.pdf

    Page 74 has this note,

    Accurate vehicle inventory is required and will be validated by
    FEMA prior to any award.


    I am not concerned was just curious what it was all about.
    Basically it's just what Brian eluded to. Your fleet must be legit and they will use various means to investigate and validate it. As long as you have accurate info on the application, no worries.

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    Thanks guys, I am sure I will have more questions as we work through our first vehicle grant, any and all help is appreciated.

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    You're doing well to even be in line for a vehicle award -- so congrats!

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    [QUOTE=WJVaughn;1412117]
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    1st timer for SCBA, Update 1199A posted sometime since 9a CST.

    It seems odd to me that after 10 years there are still first timers out there.
    This next year (2014) will be the first time my current fire department will have ever applied for an AFG, and if I had not volunteered to write it I'm not sure they would be doing it this year. Will be doing both Safety and Ops and Vehicle grants, and there is the possibility of a regional with 4 other departments as well.

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    Somebody pulled a few items from my equipment request (budget now says incomplete)......................I am just glad they are in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erobinette17 View Post
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    Nope try clearing your cache and browser history in Internet Explorer and Google Chrome if you use it.
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    That worked, Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erobinette17 View Post
    That worked, Thanks.
    Your welcome, have a great day!
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    Just found the 2nd half of a countywide 2-part regional SCBA, first half 1199A showed 3 weeks ago. Found it on a spot check so probably an afternoon rollout between now and dinnertime...

    Did find another FR for SCBA and a pumper out of TN so definitely happy day. Just for those keeping track of getting vehicles funded the 1st application for this truck was 2007. Then 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, and now. They didn't get their run counts to us in time to submit for 2012. Either way, computer denial every time, so this was the first year it beat the computer and now is getting funded.

    This is the reason a computer denial isn't so much a statement on the application but a statement of relativity compared to other applications at the same time. Truck apps were the main reason we like many others here only charge a small amount ($50 for us) for resubmitting apps for the same project. Sometimes it takes others getting funded to get out of the way so we can get ours. This department's mutual aid is also getting a tanker, 4th submission and 1st time beating the computer also. Worst thing anyone can do is not resubmit after a denial when it's a solid need.
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    So got caught up with a lot of "stuff" and was unable to check things for a couple of weeks. Finally jumped on the portal today and low and behold, got an 1199 update for a Brush Truck. No idea when it showed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utfd701 View Post
    So got caught up with a lot of "stuff" and was unable to check things for a couple of weeks. Finally jumped on the portal today and low and behold, got an 1199 update for a Brush Truck. No idea when it showed up.
    Way to go Dave. Congratulations.
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    Must be the week for 1199's for brush units. Ours pop up a few days ago. We been trying for 4 years on this application. Tweaking the narrative each year paid off.

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    Spoke with one of my AFG contacts, found out I have impeccable timing as the update was posted this morning. So far no budget adjustments, $135,000 for the brush truck and $11,000 other funding (physicals).

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    Was curious what departments are getting for brush trucks we put in for 155000 an have not seen a reduction?

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    Brush/Quick Attacks go anywhere from pickup with skid to 4dr with rescue bodies and 500gpm+ pumps. There are bands within that depending on the base specs you put into the application but otherwise it's pretty open. Gotten some as high as $180k when on medium duty commercial chassis. Just depends on the need and the coupling of that with the truck & price.

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