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    Hey guys, so like most city departments my department is facing budget issues, Ive been an ff a little over 10 years and have always thought about what can we do to make more money rather than raise taxes, we already have an ambulance service, beyond that I have ideas some are crazy, some are realistic, please share any others?

    -put billboards on firehouses in downtown/congested areas
    -wrap firetrucks in ads (could be hospital ads or something related, not the whole truck just engineers compartment as we already have done in the past with safety messages)
    -lease trucks to hollywood/tv studios
    -get sponsorship (this is a dumb idea, but Im just brainstorming), wear a patch on the shirt that has the sponsor
    -offer training to smaller departments
    -offer academy spots to smaller departments
    -mass market shirts

    I don't know, I know some of these are wild, and some really won't make a difference but I feel like we are at at time where we need to start thinking outside the box and figuring out what we can do to make more money without adding hours and without raising taxes.

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    Maybe it is just me, but when I was a paid firefighter it never would have occurred to me to believe it was my job to "fund raise" to supplement tax revenues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Maybe it is just me, but when I was a paid firefighter it never would have occurred to me to believe it was my job to "fund raise" to supplement tax revenues.
    It isn't just you. At some point, you tell the city to suck it up...or to just plain suck it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastKyFF View Post
    It isn't just you. At some point, you tell the city to suck it up...or to just plain suck it.
    And then at some point the city says we can no longer afford to have you employed ::: so suck it up.
    Unfortunately in this age this is becoming reality far too often.

    One problem I see is that in many places the revenue generated from EMS billing is put in the general fund & not used to offset the fire dept budget costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islandfire03 View Post
    And then at some point the city says we can no longer afford to have you employed ::: so suck it up.
    Unfortunately in this age this is becoming reality far too often.

    One problem I see is that in many places the revenue generated from EMS billing is put in the general fund & not used to offset the fire dept budget costs.
    EXACTLY on the EMS revenue.

    It is not a public employees job to fund their job through fund raising. I am sick to death of being told there is no money for the fire department when I see no similar cuts in staffing or equipment in other city departments. Especially the police.
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    Quote Originally Posted by islandfire03 View Post
    And then at some point the city says we can no longer afford to have you employed ::: so suck it up.
    Unfortunately in this age this is becoming reality far too often.
    I'm not convinced that selling ad space on apparatus or selling shirts would raise enough money to head this off.
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    Default correct...

    ad space wouldnt work, I've crunched the numbers, high ads may fetch up to $30,000 a month, but our departments budget is easily over 100 million, our downtown firehouses alone may be able to get 1,000,000 in annual revenue if ads were put on firehouses or billboards built on the roofs. But it doesn't come close to the total budget. And ditto, indeed our ems money goes back to the general fund. I am just trying to crunch every idea possible.

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    Two possible revenue opportunities:
    1) If you have a mechanics shop, offer pump repair and testing to other nearby fire departments.
    2) Offer fire and/or EMS training to other fire/EMS agencies in your area. If you already have the instructors and facility (training tower, etc.) for your own dept., offer the same training to other fire/EMS agencies.

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    Well if politicians would stop sucking up so much of the tax revenue... When was the last time you saw one of them take a significant pay cut or cut their staff and budgets??

    I know, but a boy can dream right?

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    Been through one of these in a previous department and have had the displeasure of trying to lobby the public to buy off on a ballot measure to fund a department that was being disbanded if we didnt get it. Not a fun job, lost the vote, department now in the last few months of existence.... glad i was able to move to another department.. whew! Not sure how that would work with selling ad space, but the public and funding their fire department can be a tricky prospect in times where money is tight and jobs are at a premium, Good Luck brother!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsb View Post
    Well if politicians would stop sucking up so much of the tax revenue... When was the last time you saw one of them take a significant pay cut or cut their staff and budgets??

    I know, but a boy can dream right?
    What I see as a problem, is when fire protection is funded from the general fund of a gov't entity (city, etc.). The politicians are pitting the fire protection funding (essential service) against golf courses, swimming pools, parks, etc. (non-essential services). I would rather see fire protection funding from a set revenue source (mills, assessments, etc.). This can help to prevent "hijacking" of fire protection funding by politicians for other uses.

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