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    Default High-Pressure Water Systems Past/Present?

    The massive fire in Jersey last night gets me thinking: how many cities had or still have high-pressure water systems? Either fixed or mobile?

    Philadelphia
    http://hiddencityphila.org/2011/09/h...e-waterfront-2
    http://hiddencityphila.org/2012/03/n...ry-fire-plugs/

    San Fran
    http://www.sfmuseum.org/hist1/hpfs.html

    Detroit

    Come to mind.

    Plus New York City's Super Pumper system.

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    City of Philadelphia's system is out of service and no longer in use. Many of the hydrants are still in place and are only removed as Water Dept work in the immediate area calls for it (or in most cases if they are struck and knocked off by a vehicle.)

    The High Pressure Pumping Station was torn down probably shortly after that article was written.

    One bit of buff trivia that many did not know- if the high pressure pumping station ever went down, there were intake manifolds on the bulkhead adjacent to the pumping station, that the PFD Marine Companies could use to supplement the system.

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    The NJ State NEPTUNE system was called for last night, but was a little too late. Also FDNY and Jersey City Marine Companies were on location supplying LDH.

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    Berkeley California recently purchased a high volume mobile pump system, 2x 6000gpm pumps using 6 miles of 12" supply hose.

    http://www.berkeleyside.com/2010/10/...-bay-to-hills/

    Link to the manufacturer's site

    http://www.hytransfiresystem.com/


    Oakland California built a pumping station next to Lake Merritt to protect the downtown area following the 1906 Earthquake, but it was disrupted when BART (the local rail transit system) was constructed in the 1970s and the water system was not returned to service.

    They did buy some hose wagons similar to those used by the SFFD following the Oakland Hills fire of 1991. Each carried a mile of LDH and portable hydrants. This is a dated article, but I understand they still have 4 in service.

    http://www.firehydrant.org/info/oakpwss1.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    The NJ State NEPTUNE system was called for last night, but was a little too late...
    It always will be.
    "This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?

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    Atlantic City New Jersey had such a system but it is long gone. It was a cooperative effort between the City and it's larger hotels. All of the Fire Pumps of those larger hotels were tied into the system with the common piping and street hydrants maintained by the city. With those huge "Ordinary construction" (masonry bearing wall with wood floor and roof support structures) hotels now gone the system went with them as the far smaller fire pumps required by Fire Resistive constructed hotels starved the system for pumping capacity it became impractical to maintain the system.

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    Seems like to me it would be cheaper to not build such monstrosities, and to use firewalls more...

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    It's not really practical to raze an old city and re-build with modern construction.

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    Gets me thinking about the Auxiliary Fire Service of England, and how they developed portable pumping capabilities during World War II. Their system, as memory serves, including floating pumps that would relay to shore, along with "pipe layer" units used to lay sections of plastic pipe.

    Can't (yet) find a good overview of the system with pictures, but here's a neat page with pictures of a reenactment. They're building a vehicle bridge which would allow trucks to pass underneath a temporary pipe system.

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    http://nfs-afs.org.uk/2012/05/21/ope...s-pipe-bridge/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Here and there View Post
    It's not really practical to raze an old city and re-build with modern construction.
    We're not talking about tearing down an old city. We're talking about building these NEW 4-5-6 story lumber yards...

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