Here's a question for all you Vollie's with lots of woodland and trails. What do you use for off-road rescue situations? Does your department own a Vehicle for this or do use whoever has the biggest pick-up truck? What about ATVs or snowmobiles? If you have an ATV, how do you transport a patient on it?
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01-23-2001, 12:42 PM #1nomad1085Firehouse.com Guest
Off-Road Rescue Vehicle- What do you use?
01-23-2001, 03:05 PM #2RJEFirehouse.com Guest
We use the "brush buggy". Each station has a brush rig, varies but generally a 1-ton dually 6wd with small (read light) tool sides (more like contractor sides) for rakes and shovels, and a 250gpm portable pump and 250gal plastic tank. These were '76 GMC built from scratch on a flatbed (when I started in '80) through an '84 GMC 3500 to a '90 GMC and a '94 Ford F-350, but all were set up basically the same.
The area included lots of woody areas, as well as river bottom (lots of plowed fields). For a grass/brush fire, first due was a pumper plus a brush rig. For "difficult access" med/rescue, we'd run pumper (for manpower, this is normal) plus med squad (not transport ambulance, but med. duty rescue) plus (or special call) the brush rig). The rescue squad was too heavy to off-road, but the brush rigs could go just about anywhere short of ATV trails. And in a swampy field (I remember a flipped tractor - driver pinned rescue) we pumped out the tank and dropped the pump off, then carried medics in and patient out between the tool sides.
01-23-2001, 03:08 PM #3AdlerFirehouse.com Guest
Ford F-350 4x4. It carries most of our rescue equipment. We also have two trailers that we use for (1) Scuba equipment (2) Trauma and Medical equipment, as well as ropes, a basket, and other various gadgets. We were looking at ATV's, but there isn't that much need for them. We have a lot of farmers on our squad that will let us use ATV's and other equipment if we need.
01-23-2001, 05:03 PM #4firefighter26Firehouse.com Guest
We use an 1999 F-350 4X4. It has a slide in package that has a 23hp portable pump and 150 gal of water. It also carries SCBAs, FR equipment and a huge pile of hose.
01-23-2001, 08:28 PM #5DRA-252Firehouse.com Guest
Ford F350 4X4 outfitted with the necessary gear. But if they're really "off road" then we get our biggest guys and a backboard
01-23-2001, 11:28 PM #6canmanFirehouse.com Guest
We have a 1944 Dodge weapons carrier that's 6wheel drive with a big a#% winch on the front. Along with all our rescue gear on the truck, we transport them to a clearing and call the helicopter to haul them out.
01-24-2001, 08:02 AM #7IslanderFirehouse.com Guest
We use whatever we can find to do the job! Our department does not have a specialized off-road vehicle for fire or rescue. We do have access to a specialised rescue team which has training and equipment for remote search and rescue.
Many fire departments around our province do use modified 4X4s or 6X6s for those hard to get at places. Up north fire departments depend on snow machines, kamatiks (sleds) and portable pumps for fire protection in the winter months. (no roads)
Most common method for seriously injured victim transfer beyond walking distance is helicopter. The Candian Forces operate a SAR squadron equipped with Labrador (boeing vertol) helicopters within one hour of our location we also have a private helicopter charter service that provides assistance as well. We've actually transported our holmatro tools and pump along with FFs to an aircraft accident site by helicopter.
01-24-2001, 08:24 AM #8esvfdfirefighterFirehouse.com Guest
We would use our 1944 dodge power wagon brush truck in this situation. the truck is basically only equipped for brush fires, but we could take any necessary gear from our rescue that is needed and place it on the brush.
01-24-2001, 09:51 AM #9Les.HFirehouse.com Guest
Would like to answer but I'm not a Vollie.
Oh go on then, we use a long wheel based Land Rover with front mounted 500 gpm pump and a 100 water tank. Carries 2 BA, hose, suction, beaters, tool kit, shovels, stand pipe, Co2 & Dry Powder extinguishers and a short ext ladder. This is the only vehicle kitted out like this in the Brigade (20 stations). Planned to be upgraded in the very near future and will be changing to a different unit.
Kindest regards & keep safe,
01-24-2001, 11:01 AM #10snowmankw77Firehouse.com Guest
We are currently using a 1982 Ford F-250. It is primarily our brush truck but if necessary it can get the job done.
Eastern Garrett County
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01-24-2001, 02:30 PM #11FIREMAN6911Firehouse.com Guest
For Off-Road Rigs we have, A 1950's Mack Forestry Tanker truck (Ex-Army) 6x6, 1950's Jeep Forestery (Also ex army) 4x4, 1989 Ford Bronco 4x4, 1997 Chevy Blazer 4x4, 1996 International Pumper 4x4, 1998 International/Hackney Rescue truck with Winch,1989 International tanker 4x4.
01-24-2001, 03:53 PM #12AdzeFirehouse.com Guest
we have a 1996 Hummer
We also have a 1985 Chevy Pickup which we got from army surplus. But completely done over...new engine, new interior, new doors, new windows, new other stuff...
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01-24-2001, 05:55 PM #13Lewiston2CaptFirehouse.com Guest
We will be geting our 2001 Ford F-350 Crew cab Diesel 4X4 with 250 gal skid mounted pump and tank. The truck will be used predominantly for brush fires but can be used for wildland rescue by draining the tank and lifting the skid out.
Shawn M. Cecula
Lewiston Fire Co. No. 2
01-24-2001, 08:01 PM #14RescueDudeFirehouse.com Guest
Well didnt know if you were trying to leave the career firefighters out, but I am answering anyway.
I am in a city with alot of bike trails and offroad area where people motocross.
We use a John Deere Gator, it is a 6 wheel ATV that has 4 wheel drive, will carry 3 people plus the patient, it is equipped with a optional rack for securing the patient and a seat so you can be at the patients head during transport, doesnt go very fast, about 20, and isnt worth a darn in the snow, but for what we use it for it works fine.
Stay Safe !
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01-25-2001, 12:44 PM #15Firefighter2197Firehouse.com Guest
Sorry about your gator
you need to get the big daddy
a kawasika mule
set up for patient car with a stokes and med equiment
all so used for brush fires
stay safe and have fun
01-27-2001, 10:49 AM #16RescueDudeFirehouse.com Guest
The nice thing about the Gator is we didnt have to buy it, its a loaner from the local implement dealer, we get a new 1 every year,
the main reason we received the Gator was because of the extensive bike trail system we have in the county, which it works fine for, we also have a Wave Runner from a local dealer on the same plan, new 1 every year, so for any departments out there that have low cash available, you might try your local dealers and see if they would be willing to give this plan a try.
Stay Safe RescueDude
04-01-2007, 12:37 PM #17
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I own a 400acre sporting location, primarly paintball as well as much more. I also work with two local fire departments. For insurance breaks we setup a medical department on the property, and we share our equipment with the two local departments, so it also acts as there off-road rescue unit. We use a fully cabbed Polaris Ranger 6X6 with winch and all of the toys. But our actual patient transport unit could be pulled by any ATV.
As you can see it is available both with skies and wheels, So it can easily be pulled by any ATV or snowmobile. I decided on this rig over some of the others because of the suspension, ive never seen a boggan that provided such a comfortable ride to a patient. I also needed something fully enclosed to protect from the elements.
These rigs are available at www.rescueboggan.com
10-07-2007, 05:03 PM #18
"For off-road rescue we us All Terrain Res-Q Trailers"
As the size and weight of what can be effectively towed on many back country trails is critical, we have found that lighter and lower to the ground is certainly better. So, at 48 inches wide and less than 250 pounds fully equipped, All Terrain Res-Q Trailers (ATR's) can be towed by almost any 450cc (and up) 4X4 ATV or UTV, plus most hitch equipped utility snowmobiles.
Honda 500 Foreman on a hiking trail maintained at a 52" minimum width.
Ski-Doo Snowmobile on a back country trail in Wasatch Mountains of Utah.
Be SAFE out there!
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