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    Yea well, you know.
    Just know, I chose my own fate. I drove by the fork in the road and went straight.

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    If people only want to become firefighters so they can decorate their vehicles like a christmas tree, they are not true firefighters.

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    So when you are a volunteer (which is not a bad thing) and a student in college or even high school, it is okay to have lights and sirens on your car? Then when your buddies come over to get drunk, you take them out for a cruise in your quasi fire rig?
    What about the guy who has his rig all dolled up and parks outside the bar or strip club??
    These are just some simple reasons I don't believe in POV lighting. But hey I am just a paid guy now and don't know any better right KeepBack

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYSmokey
    I have a 10KW AMPS generator on my POV to power my lights. Is that wrong???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ledebuhr1
    I am waiting for someone to put a Q siren on a car or truck.
    It's been done...Ford Project Responder Ultimate Volunteer Response Vehicle.

    It was a project truck...an '87 F-250...and yes, when finished it had a Q-2 dead center on the bumper...


    HMMMM...I had a '74 Pinto...If Id added a few alternators...and mounted a 'Q' on the roof...wonder if I'd have gotten a few extra pounds of thrust when I wound it out???
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    Quote Originally Posted by ehs7554
    So when you are a volunteer (which is not a bad thing) and a student in college or even high school, it is okay to have lights and sirens on your car? Then when your buddies come over to get drunk, you take them out for a cruise in your quasi fire rig?
    What about the guy who has his rig all dolled up and parks outside the bar or strip club??
    These are just some simple reasons I don't believe in POV lighting. But hey I am just a paid guy now and don't know any better right KeepBack
    First off, I'm a college student; and I have lights in my Cherokee that I HARDLY ever run. The way I see it is if one of my drunk buddies cut my lights on, I'd beat his ***. Then again, if your drunk you shouldn't be in your POV because your prob. driving. Secondly, the guy outside the strip club is a moot point because it bears no relavance to this argument. Thirdly, DO NOT try and put me on either side of the paid vs. volly argument. I do not appreciate that.
    Just know, I chose my own fate. I drove by the fork in the road and went straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehs7554
    Okay, Here I go....I don't think you should put lights and sirens on any POV. POV's are not emergency vehicles and typically do not receive normal emergency vehicle maint. With this you get JOE BOB with his 82' Chevy pickup with rusted wheel wells responding in a vehicle that is other wise not safe for that type of driving.

    EHS, many rural departments depend greatly on members rigging their vehicles to be utilized in responding direct to the scene. Texas states that a POV is an authorized emergency vehicle when equipped in accordance with the Texas Transportation Code. If I am toned out to assist with a medical on my side of our district, it makes more sense for me to respond direct rather than drive 7 minutes to the station, take three minutes to get our light rescue out the door, then drive another 7 minutes back. In my POV, I have as much gear as I will ever reasonably need as a first responder, therefore it is much more expedient to use my POV. And while it is true that some individuals choose to overlook the maintenance of their vehicles on some departments, our chief is authorized by policy to determine whether or not a vehicle is suitable to rig out and respond with. We are required minimally to have current state inspection certifications, liability insurance, and registration before our personnel can even use their POV's to respond in with or without emergency equipment. This is in contrast, sadly, to some departments that don't impose such policies.

    At any rate, as long as a vehicle is equipped according to the laws that govern the area the firefighter is in AND the vehicle operator drives with the proper due regard required, I say, "No harm, no foul".

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    Lightbulb Lighten up (Punn intended)

    Quote Originally Posted by ehs7554
    These are just some simple reasons I don't believe in POV lighting. But hey I am just a paid guy now and don't know any better right KeepBack

    Not every POV equipped with a red-light is an on-call or volunteer!
    There are also career, yes IAFF, that use red-lights on their POV to respond for call-backs.
    It could also be a doctor’s vehicle.

    Stay Safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriTownship600
    Not every POV equipped with a red-light is an on-call or volunteer!
    There are also career, yes IAFF, that use red-lights on their POV to respond for call-backs.
    It could also be a doctor’s vehicle.

    Stay Safe

    Yea, cause Lord knows EVERY vehicle has redlights equipped from the factory, oh wait, thats the brake lights. Maybe we should remove them.
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    Maybe the Texas DMV takes things a little more seriously. That is great if they(pov response vehices) actually get checked out. I have seen too many people and heard too much about problems with POV emregency response that it just doesn't seem to be worth the added liability. Talk to your insurance companies as well and find out what happens if you get in a wreck. Will your dept pay for ALL damages?? I bet not especially if it is volunteer. Anyway, thats great if your state has special rules but overall I think it is a bad idea. Just think a small dept with 20 volunteers alll running hot to get to a scene or to a station.........well, who knows?

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    Well I guess everything that we have discussed here can just be chalked up as the nature of the beast.



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    Just know, I chose my own fate. I drove by the fork in the road and went straight.

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    I can agree to disagree on this one

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    I'm not saying that I disagree with you, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do; and if that means running your new Whelen LED Lightbar that's worth more than your U-Go to save a life; then sometimes that's what you gotta do.
    Just know, I chose my own fate. I drove by the fork in the road and went straight.

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    This is rediculous, that we are discussing this AGAIN. But, this is a discussion forum, and that's what it's for, right?

    Lights in POV works for some, doesn't work for others. If it works for you, then use it and use it well. If it doesn't work for you, then don't do it, and don't complain about the one's that do.

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    YES, lights in POVs work, WHEN;
    1) It is not over done. A light or two on the front, and one in the back is all you really need

    2) The memeber who has the lights is RESPONSIABLE! This means his/her POV is in good shape, he/she has a good driving record, and there are strict rules governing when they should be used

    I have a light in the front, and a light in the back so I can be IDed from the rear if needed. I only use them for "confirmed" calls, or if i am 1st on scene of an MVC. An Activated Fire Alarm, or palm tree on fire, really is no cause for me, who will make the Truck Co. no matter how fast or slow I go (second out unit) to go rushing through traffic like a moron, endangering myself, and others just to sit outside while my officer silences a panel.
    If you have more lights on your POV then a Christmas tree, you need a checkup from the neckup
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    My POV looks like the demented, bastard offspring of a UFO and porcupine copulation. I have red and clear lights all over the front of my truck with red facing to the rear. I have antennae strategically mounted for two VHF radios, a scanner and a CB radio. I have a siren mounted in the grill and enough power being pumped out of the CB to light up fluorescent bulbs (2’) lining the bed of the truck .

    Can someone tell me what kind of alternator I will need to hook up my Federal Q and still be able to power everything else?









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    Ha HA!!!!


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    In my town just about everyone has a blue light, but only 5 people per company are allowed to have sirens...hence the top 5 officers. We keep it simple...if you drive like an *********, you get treated like one and lose your blue light permit. I have one light in the dash (Slimighter TIR6) and one in the back (cheap little Sho-Me). That's all you need. I barely use them! I use them the most for MVA's because we get alot of them on the major highway.

    You don't need a million lights to get the job done

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    Ok this has been going on for long enough,lol..... I have a Whelen Slimlighter Amber/Clear on my dash. It works Great. No need for 4542434,2343243 different lights.

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    So this topic is now over?

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