Hello everyone, I am thinking about buying my own helmet. I am leaning towards the Cairns 1000, or the Cairns 1010. Any insights on these two helmets or any other helmets similar to these is greatly appreciated.
Adam J. Dorn
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Thread: Suggestion for a new helmet?
05-04-2001, 12:01 AM #1flash32Firehouse.com Guest
Suggestion for a new helmet?
05-04-2001, 12:31 AM #2cfr3504Firehouse.com Guest
I'll admit, I'm not the expert on this, because I've never actually fought fire in anything other than a Cairns 660, or a Bullard Firedome. But I've tried on several helmets that others have. In my opinon, I'd don't think you'll go wrong with a 1000, or 1010. I know a couple of guys that have them, and they are nice helmets, considering getting one myself.(when extra funds allow) The Bullard Traditional helmet is heavier than the Cairns, from what I've seen, but still a good looking helmet. As far as leather, I don't have much experience with it and can't make any recommendations.
Just my un-educated opinion
05-04-2001, 03:05 AM #3gordoffemtFirehouse.com Guest
I own 2 Bullard CXT's, the traditional style that has since been replaced by the UST, and could not be happier with them. I know some guys that have 1010's and they are nice as well, but the weight difference is minimal. It really comes down to price. I've been quoted a price of $189 for a new UST whereas the 1010's are $279 or more. Either way, they're both fine helmets. I just happen to like my Bullards. Good luck.
Lt. D. Gordon
Greendale Fire Department
05-04-2001, 03:05 AM #4lumpy649Firehouse.com Guest
One word... Moo! Leather, if you can afford it is the way to go. I will add that the Cairns 1010 is a great helmet, while I've seen the Bullards fail under conditions that they should be able to endure. I've even seen them break when stepped on by the wee ones... not too strong, in my opinion.
05-04-2001, 04:48 AM #5dalmation75Firehouse.com Guest
If your looking for a good price on a cairns 1000 or 1010 check out www.thefirestore.com, they have cairns starting at 189.00.
I really like the cairns 1010, I used one at my prior depatment and loved it, just need the funds to get my own.
05-04-2001, 09:19 AM #6BucksEng91Firehouse.com Guest
Cairns N5 New Yorker with the Bourkes. Nothing else.
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05-04-2001, 09:35 AM #7N2DFireFirehouse.com Guest
I have owned / worn a 1010 for almost 2 years now and although we only see about 100 calls/year and not every call is a "Lid Wearer" - I couldn't be happier with mine.
I picked it up at Expo '99 for $169 w/ Goggles. Added the carved Eagle Front holder (~$40), a Paul Conway Shield (~$40 ) and a Peilcan 4AA flashlight.
My only "gripe" is I don't like the goggle system - and that is MY preference - you may love them (Note that's not the EES goggles - haven't tried them yet)
I currently use ANSI Safety Glasses for Eye protection and (if I don't like the EES goggles) am planning on adding Bourkes after this Expo.
There ya go - my opinion on that Lid. Now - my advise to you is forget everything you read here and get what fits & feels good to you and is within your budget.
Take Care - Stay Safe
05-04-2001, 12:38 PM #8Ten8_Ten19Firehouse.com Guest
Anyone using the Paul Conway American Classic?
I've seen it listed for $179 and I'd like to know how it compares to the Cairns 1010.
05-04-2001, 01:13 PM #9FirediverFirehouse.com Guest
Try a Paul Conway. They are made great and fit great. ~
stay low....stay safe....BUT GET YOU SOME!!!!
05-04-2001, 02:21 PM #10jj1967Firehouse.com Guest
I've never had to buy a new helmet in 18 years...probably because I started with leather. Still have the same N5A, the only thing thats changed is the color a couple times and the shields.
05-04-2001, 02:32 PM #11FFShootyFirehouse.com Guest
05-04-2001, 05:48 PM #12afd7951Firehouse.com Guest
I use a Paul Conway Leather helmet. It was a gift for Christmas this last year and it has been a great helmet. It is heavier than the Cairns N6A which is NFPA compliant. I use the goggle system and keep them stored in what is called a "goggle garage" on the rear brim of the helmet. Before using this Leather helmet, I used a department issued Lion Legion. For a composite traditional helmet it was terrific. Very light weight and a low ride fit. I am convinced that if you want a helmet that will last your firefighting career, go LEATHER. As long as you take care of it, it will outlast you.
These are my thoughts and do not reflect on the department which I am employed by.
05-05-2001, 02:51 PM #13Ford45Firehouse.com Guest
Currently I wear a 1010. great helmet, only one problem-ITS NOT LEATER!!! in two weaks that'll all change. No, really, for being a salad bowl, its not a bad helmet. Stay safe. Peace!
Newtown Fire Association
05-05-2001, 09:14 PM #14APG1Firehouse.com Guest
Cairns N660C. I like it. It works.
05-05-2001, 09:53 PM #15newasstchiefFirehouse.com Guest
I use cow. On my feet and my head. C&B N5A, love it and will never go back.
05-06-2001, 12:03 AM #16MB1213635Firehouse.com Guest
05-06-2001, 12:16 AM #17FF103Firehouse.com Guest
The Cairns N6A Houston is the way to go. Mine took a toss from the back of our ladder truck. Came away with only skid marks.
Another member of our dept accidently ran one over with a ford grass truck (with about 100 to 150 gal of H2O on board!) Had to send that one to the factory for inspection they replaced the 6" shield, suspension system, and brass.
The inner shell did not come apart from the outer layer!
Others have gone though intense heat, and so far it has only effected the paint and yellow reflectors on outter shell!
05-06-2001, 11:56 AM #18spo0kFirehouse.com Guest
I wore a cairns 1010 that I bought out of my own pocket for 4 years and I LOVED IT. It was definatly one of the most comfortable helmets I have ever worn.
The only thing I'm seeing nowadays is a change in the suspension system on all cairns helmets. I have this new suspension system in the leather sam houston my dept bought me, and while I'm not noticing much of a differnce yet (I've only had it a month) in comfort, it definatly seems to be much more flimsy than my old suspension. Unfortunatly cairns seems to be switching to this on all their helmets and I've yet to investigate whether there is an upgrade to that.
Anyways, I would definatly recommend the 1010 over anything, it sits low on your head (unlike the ben franklin) has great heat protection, is very lightweight, and generally very comfortable.
BTW - No I do not work for cairns, I just loved that helmet
FF. Mike Burnes
Whitehall Fire Division
05-06-2001, 03:25 PM #19medtranzFirehouse.com Guest
If anyone wants to part with any extra ,or old helmets left laying around gimme a yell.
We could use a few good helmets.
05-07-2001, 04:00 PM #20cfr3504Firehouse.com Guest
check out e-bay, they have a section for fire helmets, you can get some servicable helmets for not much money, if you keep your eyes open for the good ones.
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