Can anyone tell me where I can get PW cans, new or used?
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06-25-2001, 10:03 PM #1Neptune 33Firehouse.com Guest
PW Cans
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06-25-2001, 10:30 PM #2snowballFirehouse.com Guest
This may sound stoooopid but what is a PW Can?
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06-25-2001, 10:34 PM #3Neptune 33Firehouse.com Guest
Sorry about that, I probably should have spelled it out.....a PW can is a pressurized water ext. Hope that clears things up!
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06-25-2001, 10:35 PM #4FiRsqDvr45Firehouse.com Guest
Try any local fire equipment supply company. That or look up manufacturers online like the Kidde Company.
I found 2 dealers in PA right off the bat...
Red Lion in Philly
1-888-883-LION
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SRT in Corry, PA
1-814-663-0000
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06-25-2001, 11:41 PM #5MB1213635Firehouse.com Guest
Try ebay. I see them up there occasionaly.
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06-27-2001, 10:57 PM #6Forum Member
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try contacting a local fire extinguisher company. i know our local companies seem to be changing out cans for dry chems, and those guys always seem to have a truck load somewhere.
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06-28-2001, 08:18 AM #7Junior Member
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I had good luck checking out our local government surplus website. All the county departments list the items that they're getting rid of: copiers, tables, etc. The school division was changing to new extinguishers and offered a pallet of old cans, all in good shape and still within hydro date. Our state has a similar website; maybe you will have similar luck. I got 10 for free.
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06-29-2001, 09:35 PM #8Member
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The pw a forgotten tool. It seems so many people forget about how usefull of a tool this is. The above responses are on que a local fire equipment supplier should have them.
the truth never hides for long
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07-17-2001, 01:44 AM #9Senior Member
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THE BEST PW AMREX BRAND Modle AX200 it holds
2.5 gal.of water great tool Rated at 2A and no BC.. and add air to 125 psi.
BUT
Take that same tool good by most standers and add 1 pint of F-500 to the water that same tool is rated at about 34A 320B but still no C rated This stuff (F-500) best thing for fire service since SCBA (air packs)
Amerex also makes A pw that has an 2AC rated
but I have never used that...
But if You must a broken stream will work any
questions please feel free to email me at
lbtsfd@bellsouth.net
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07-17-2001, 09:10 AM #10Junior Member
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07-19-2001, 08:11 PM #11Forum Member
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Ok What is F-500 and I think highly that this snake oil does not do what you say it can. 34A rated on 2.5 gal of h2o????????
a 33 GALLON ar-afff wheeled foam extg is only rated about 30A. As far as the class B rating you claim 320B that is 320 square feet of heptane 2 inches deep and that is only 40% of what the expert rating is. A 150 POUND dry chem unit is about 340B rated.
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07-19-2001, 08:28 PM #12Forum Member
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As far as used Cans I can get them from time to time. I usually get rid of them for $15 a unit it empty and currently due hydrostatic testing, also the extgrs are OLD ususally late 60's 70's vintage. If the o-rings go bad the pressure may leak out and replacements do not exist (that is why I get them). Where is richland pa if it is on the east part of the state I can drop them off.
The extgers MUST BE TESTED BEFORE FILLING BUYER ACCEPTS ALL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SAFETY OF THE EXTGR ITS TESTING AND ETC ETC
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07-20-2001, 04:29 PM #13Junior Member
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Richland is located almost directly halfway between Reading and Hershey, just off of Rt. 422, in Lebanon county. I will talk to the Chiefs, and find out what they decide to do.
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07-20-2001, 06:50 PM #14Forum Member
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Most John Deere Supply stores sell PW tanks to put on round bailers or on their tractors, you may want to try there
let me know if im not clear
pat
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07-20-2001, 07:41 PM #15
F-500, ColdFire and FireBuster are all additives I have used in PW extinguishers. All do acceptable jobs. It is interesting how people have forgotten the Pressurized Water extinguisher, especially since either ISO or NFPA requires one to be on a first out engine.
I am sure your local fire extinguisher service company has some or can get you some. We deal with a couple places in Akron, Ohio (PraxAir and AutoTech) to get PWs for the Cleveland Grand Prix (PW, the weapon of choice for methanol fires). If you have no luck, you can contact either of them.Richard Nester
Orrville (OH) Fire Dept.
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07-20-2001, 08:43 PM #16
Get a brand new one right here for $60.95
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07-28-2001, 04:13 PM #17Senior Member
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Don't buy used Fire Equipment It is to Just cheep to buy NEW, Less Than $100.00 bucks NEW
NEVER BUY USED.
1. PRICE
2. will need hydro test 25 to 30 bucks if passes ???
3. Needs O-rings 5.00 bucks
4. still have to ship it
5. How old 70 or 80's ????
6. if that old, not only will it need a
o-ring, but it SHALL need a vavle stem 8.00 bucks and a new hose with nozzle, from dry rot 25 to 30 bucks...
7 Dents or scratches it don't take much to fail hydro test... 1/16 on inch Dent for DOT.
8 you do the math
there is no way in the world I would buy a used PW... it don't add up Zero savings and could cost more!!!!!
I Know, I used to work for a Fire Equipment co. they still sell them today ... and they will sell new for 80 to 100 bucks all day long... because they will still make money... about 100% mark ,up thats good ,
but they have to eat too...
Some Fire Equipment Co. are not that up to speed with PW's but ask for a manager or owner to make a call...
Today most Fire equipment co's work on 90%abc type 9% BC the other 1% of there bissness
is Purple K., CO2, Class D, Hallon 1211,1301 and PW's
The only one left using PW's is the fire service...
and buy Amerex Brand modle AX-200
See PLUG UGLY great price go with water only
foam in a PW's is just a pain in ars.
[ 07-28-2001: Message edited by: Captain 12 ]
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07-28-2001, 04:27 PM #18
Take a pw add a dixie cup of class a foam and you've got a pretty nifty tool for class A nuisance fires.T.C.
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07-28-2001, 05:05 PM #19Senior Member
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F-500
I have been around the block so many times It not Funny,,, The saltier I Get the less I am willing to learn. I have been fighting fires in NY and in SO. Florida, When I started in NY my dept had ALL the up to date stuff like 3/4 boots leather helmets "no hoods" and eye protection, close one. and 2 air-packs per truck. In the 70's you were the goods...
The years go on I have seen a lot of SNAKE OIL SALESMEN with a line of BS from here to China, and when I heard about F-500 I said to myself, o boy what next... what kind of crap are they telling me today!!!!
Untill I seen it for myself....And I still can't belive it..
250 Tires set on Fire and cooking good. and put them out in 1 min and 40 sec. with just
one 1 3/4 hand line....
Class B Fires
it's not a foam no blanket to brake. It Changes the micell breakdown of fuel and it will not burn...
F-500 inducts at 1,3,or 6% with water
See there web site at HCT-WORLD.COM they will send info and video tape, and if you want a demo... and if they do a demo for you its a good learning tool for the probies out there too...
[ 07-28-2001: Message edited by: Captain 12 ]
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