Thread: Senior Prom

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    JAMESBENNETT
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    Question Senior Prom

    We are considering having a program at the local high school a couple of days before Prom night. We though if maybe we could give them something to think about before going hog wild, at least some of them would slow down and be careful. I think I have heard some discussion in the forums about others that either are doing this or have done this and I would appreciate any input as to what you are doing or have done in the past. We have gotten a couple of cars and will cut them up after we beat them up with a back-hoe for dynamics, but do you have a seminar with them first or do you have some graphic photo's to show or what.

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    SCCARESCUE
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    Just cutting a car up in front of students doesn't help the prevention process. All you have proven is that some qualified help will be around when its needed. You need a program before your demonstration. That program must contain the bulk of your efforts!

    There are several ways to get your program going. Showing graphic pictures doesn't get it done. It makes for oohs and aahs, but that is it. You need to get the students attention and keep it. While you have it, you have to teach them. Not an easy thing to accomplish.
    I have done these sorts of programs thru the MADD program for a few years. I team up with a lady from MADD and we tell our stories. She talks about how a drunk driver killed her daughter, a high school senior. I tell about my experiences as a rescuer over the past 28 years. I also talk a lot about the physics involved in a crash. I cover areas of grief, peer pressure, "cool parties", etc. We feel that we have had a positive impact on the students around this end of the state. We get great feedback from the kids and their parents. That means that the kids are going home and telling their parents what they heard from us. Something that doesn't happen most days....

    Check out the MADD.org website and get with your local chapter.

    Good luck!!

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    Bikefire
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    Thumbs up

    We just did this last spring. We didn't have that much input on this. The head Trauma nurse at a local hospital ran the whole thing. I don't know what else they did with the students, but we were only one part of this whole thing.

    We were asked to put some pre-cuts in the cars the day before and try to make it look real the next day. They had actors in the cars and we basically followed a script. We used E-6(rescue), E-7, 2 ALS units and a helicopter, to fly two students out of the football stadium.

    The actors played the parts of: drunk students, distressed parents and a Grim Reaper!

    The police officers had microphones on them, as well as microphones in the car so the students in the stands could here all we were saying on the PA system. The videotape was edited and shown to the student body, I believe.

    It was quite a production. The actors were great, and worked well with us. It was a real hit. After we were done and cleaned up, the kids were allowed to come down to the cars, and get a closer look at what we did, and the equipment we used. The students and teachers were really impressed. Great PR!

    Things I didn't like. Actors were in cars. (non-emergency personnel) A tarp, put on the grass to keep glass and oil off the football field. It was a real tripping hazard. They also had two cameramen video tapping our every move, often in our way trying to get close ups. I guess if you want to make it look real, you have to go at least that far. I hope it had the impact on the students they wanted.

    I got pics, I don't know if they would be any help.

    Bikefire

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    JAMESBENNETT
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    Wink

    Thanks for the in-put. I am just getting started putting this program together and your ideals will help.

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    ccsr12
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    We were ask to do a part in a movie that one of the SADD groups put together. The movie lasted for about 30 to 35 minutes. There are pictures of it on your web site, (http://welcome.to/ccsr) If it is not there let me know and I will e-mail or post some of them here. Anyway, they was going to show the movie on the day of prom, but the school board told them that they could not. So we have a movie with no place to show it. Make sure and ask the schools if you can show it.
    They had a local TV station do the shooting and editing for them. I think they also do it for free, free PR you know. I hope this helps in some way.

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    HYTHE FIRE DEPARTMENT
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    Our department participates in the “Party Program” in our area. The program is done 6 times a year for area grade nine students (13-16 year olds). Each program is a daylong. Our participation is only in the morning when we do a trauma drama. What happens is a busload of the kids arrives at the community center to find a car accident in the parking lot with three of their own fellow students either trapped inside or walking around all bloody. We proceed to use the tools and extricate the two-trapped patients. One is dead, so we cover with a blanket and move out of the way. The other is in critical condition, and EMS works hard on them until they eventually die in the back of the ambulance.

    Afterwards, the kids are moved into the community center. There, each kid is designated with a handicap or permanent disability that can result from a car accident. The kids have to spend the rest of the day with this disability. Thus, if you are blind, you must spend the rest of the day with a blind fold on. If you are a quad, you must spend the rest of the day in a wheel chair with your arms tied down.

    Once each kid has been outfitted with their disability, (I think there are 25 separate disabilities they use), there are several presentations to be made before lunch. The presentations are from the police, ambulance service and the funeral home, relating stories of drinking and driving.

    At lunch, all kids must continue to remain in character with their disability. Thus if they are a quad, some one must feed them. If they are blind, they must make do without seeing. If they have lost an arm, they can only use the other arm, and so on. After lunch, they are given more simple tasks to perform with their disability to grasp what it would be like to be disabled after a crash.

    The last presentation is from an individual who was drinking and driving when he was 16, and got into an accident. He killed two of his friends in the vehicle, and is confined to a wheel chair himself with little motor control of his arms and hands. This presentation is the icing on the cake. They are all more understanding of what it is like to have a disability as a result of the last 4 hours, but this presentation drives the point home. That point being that not only will you be hurt, most likely your friends will die.

    It is a very successful program that really hits home. We only play a small part in the program, but it is a crucial part to set up the rest of the day.

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    ElmerA
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    We put together a scenerio every 4 years just before Fall Homecoming. This past one, we put two vehicles in front of the bleachers, with victims, then we bring all the high school students into the "Scene". As soon as the last student sits down, the first pager goes off over the PA.

    The story goes, one group was coming from the party, the other going to the party. They meet head on, with fatalities.

    We have envolved all services that would respond and bring them "On Scene" as time would make it happen, all the time with victims screaming, pagers going off, etc..

    We treat the whole thing as real, no faking, no prepping, just like it really happens. We discuss ahead of time each persons role, but have an IC who assigns duties as personnel and equipment arrive. The last to leave is the Funeral Home.

    We added a twist to ours in that the "Dead" students spend the rest of the day walking around school with "painted grey faces". They cannot talk or respond to any student. The next day (Friday) is the same, but there is a coffin at the school's main entrance for each "dead" student.

    I must say that it has a very emotional impact on each of the students and I know of several who have changed their outlook on life because of what we did.

    All of our picture taking and video taping was done out of site and out of mind of the actual operation.

    To see what we did, I put together a slide show on our web site http://www.rescue70.org

    Elmer Anderson, NREMT
    Mountain Ambulance Service http://www.rescue70.org

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    firstin
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    Our dept. has also put on a crash senario every year for the juniors at the local high school. We only do this for the juniors due to class sizes. We first place two cars to appear to be in a head on collision. Students from their own class are used for victims with the full realm of makeup to appeared injured.

    An actual dispatch is played over the loud speaker to simulate a page. All radio transmissions are then broadcasted thru the PA system. A full extrication response is given including a helicopter. Various Students are DOA on scene and others are transported all while extrication is going on. The driver of one car is then arrested on the spot for drunk driving and taken away in the police car.

    We have been given excellant feed back from both the staff and students of the high school. We try to keep it as real as possible and the radio transmissions seem to emphasize this. Unfortunitly we still have the drinking and driving realated accidents in our community, but hopfully we are getting thru to a few students the dangers of driving intoxicated.


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    mark/cvarc
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    We did a program where we staged an accident involving DUI with a fatality. All victims were students and each was made up graphicly. The whole scene was covered as the entire high school filed into the stadium bleachers, then uncovered and run as realistcally as possible.As the accident was investigated and a driver was arrested there was some narration of what was taking place. The students then witnessed the arraignment and later on in the year, the trial of the driver using real prosecuters and judge. It made quite an impression on the students.

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    F52 Westside
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    Our dept. does not do that kind of demo. The Saline F.D. does though every year (I think every year?). They do an actual demo, that shows the whole nine yards. Including bringing in a Helo for transport. I have not had the chance to see it, but I here it is been a success.Here is there webpage address http://www.salinefire.com/ . They might be of help for your program just e-mail them.


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    Fireboy422
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    Exclamation

    I'm 19 years old, and a rookie on the local FD, so basically I'm right out of High school. Our school did a week of "Drunk Driving education" where PSA's were shown for a period of time one day, a poem was read over the schools PA another day, exc... We also did a thing where a student dressed as the Grim Reaper came into random classrooms and removed students, the students faces were painted, then returned to class, the couldn't interact with anyone in anyway, it was later revealed the students were dead as a result of a drunk driving accident. This was thought of as a good idea by the adults, but the students saw it as a big joke, and did everything in their power to get interaction out of the "dead" students, mostly by playing pranks. It was not well received or taken seriously.

    I know it is very difficult to set up this type of presentation, but it is important. The main thing you must remember is that you need to present the reality. You must consider the students as adults, no matter how they act. You must find the right blend of the "ohhs and ahhs" and as real as possible demos. I hate to feed off the suffering of others, but if you can find a surviving victim of a DUI crash, see if they are willing to help you out. They might not be willing to do a speech, but they are the best source of reality you have.

    In short, good luck, you are faced with a very difficult task, but a very important one, it could change a life forever.

    Just remember, no effort in this matter is ever made in vein, you never know who you can touch, but you need to try to get something that will hit the most students.

    If I can be of any help to you, as a young person, who's been there, suffered through boring DD presentations, let me know.

    FF D. Betka

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    Capt. Clay
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    James, I would suggest contacting the San Marcos Fire Department. They have been putting on a presentation for the last few years concerning this issue. The whole thing is called "Shattered Dreams" and is a two day event. The first day involves the student body witnessing the wreck from the time of the first arriving engine on, including the makeup and transport, extrication,etc.. Through out the same day, someone dressed as the Grim Reaper removes a student from class every fifteen minutes showing how often a person dies from DWI. The student is out of school for the rest of the day and put with the rest of the "victims" to reflect on what is going on. The victims spend the night secluded from everyone, including their parents, and write down their thoughts on the subject. Their parents, in turn, do the same as if their children were taken from them. The next day at a school assembly, some of the "victims" and parents stories are read to the student body.
    I personally haven't witnessed this program, but this year I am trying to participate in it since my dept. surrounds the city and we see a lot of the wrecks. It is supposed to happen March 7-8, I believe, and sounds like something worth checking out. Hope this helps.

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    JAMESBENNETT
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    Thank everyone for your input. This project is very near and dear to so many and we hope to drive home the importance of DUI accidents'.

    Fireboy442 thank you for your feedback. Young adults are very hard to get though to and this is one of the things that will be the most difficult to overcome with the presentation. As it maybe we do have at least 4 people that I can think of off the top of my head that we could ask. If I need any advice for you I will send you an e-mail. Thank for you time and thoughts. It is always' nice in this day and age to see a young man interested in the service!

    Capt. Clay thank you for your post. I will try to get in touch with the people in San Marcos and get over there to see their presentation.

    Sorry that I don't have time to say thank you to everyone individually, but to:
    Sccarescue,Bikefire,ccsr12,HYTHE FIRE DEPARTMENT,ElmerA,Rirstin,Mark/cvarc, and F52 Westside. THANK YOU ALL!!

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    firenresq77
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    This is a very good cause and you should be commended for doing this. It can be time-consuming, but it is worth it. Our department has been doing it for probably the last ten years. Started of every 2 yrs, then the one principal only wanted once every 3-4, but now back to every 2. We have usually 4 students who are our "victims" and we have them placed in the car, covered by a tarp on the football field. Then the kids come out and the accident happens. Everything is done in real time and we get anyone and everyone who would be involved there to play a part. You can email me if you have some questions and I will try to get you some information. firenresq77@email.msn.com
    Good luck with it.

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    MetalMedic
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    Firenresq77, after doing this for 10 years, have you been able to establish the effectiveness of such a program? Have you had a reduction in high school age kids being involved in DWI and/or high speed crashes since the program began? This age group is a tough nut to crack sometimes. I wonder if you are actually getting throgh to them, or is the presentation just an excuse to get out of class for a good part of the day?



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    firenresq77
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    MetalMedic, I can't say for sure, because I was still in school when it started, but I believe our numbers have decreased. I think anymore, most of the MVA's involve people traveling thru the city or who work in the city. The parents also play a big part in prom night because they usually put together an after-prom party with all kinds of activities and prizes for everyone. I know when I was went to prom, the majority of kids were all at the after-prom instead of out somewhere else. The after-prom started within an hour after prom ended, and ended at 0600. If you weren't there by a certain time or if you left early, your parents were notified. I will see if I can dig up some kind of stats to let you know for sure.

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    firemedic 4417
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    The volunteer department which I am on does this every two years. We get two cars from the local scrap yard and stage an accident on the track around the football field, all of the students from grades 7 through 12 are in bleachers to watch. The fire department is paged out and responds as if the acident were real.

    Several of the students are used as victims and placed inside the cars or outside the cars to simulate ejection. One student plays the drunk driver and is arrested at the "scene" and placed in the patrol car. At least one student is a "DOA" and the remaining student victims are extricated from the car just as if the accident had really taken place. Parents are also invited to observe and are often given the role of the upset parent. Medical care is administered while the "victims" are still in the car and extracation is taking place. Once the "victims" are extricated they are placed in squads and the squads leave the track area to simulate transport to the hospital. The student who is "DOA" is covered with a sheet, left in plain view of the student body, and once the demonstration is over and the students return to class, the person who was "DOA" either does not return to school for the day or returns to class but has to act as if they are not there (no interaction of any kind with remaining students or staff). The most seriously injured "victim" is loaded into a medical helicopter and on occasion the helicopter actually leaves the football field with the "victim" inside.

    We have been doing this for the past 10 years and since then have not had a student involved in a drunk driving accident (which they were at fault) since the program started.

    This is not only a good experience for the students involved but it is also good for the fire departments involved. Since we are a small rural volunteer department we call two other departments mutual aid to assist with EMS, extrication, and setting up a landing zone for the helicopter.

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    firemedic 4417
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    The volunteer department which I am on does this every two years. We get two cars from the local scrap yard and stage an accident on the track around the football field, all of the students from grades 7 through 12 are in bleachers to watch. The fire department is paged out and responds as if the accident were real.

    Several of the students are used as victims and placed inside the cars or outside the cars to simulate ejection. One student plays the drunk driver and is arrested at the "scene" and placed in the patrol car. At least one student is a "DOA" and the remaining student victims are extricated from the car just as if the accident had really taken place. Parents are also invited to observe and are often given the role of the upset parent. Medical care is administered while the "victims" are still in the car and extrication is taking place. Once the "victims" are extricated they are placed in squads and the squads leave the track area to simulate transport to the hospital. The student who is "DOA" is covered with a sheet, left in plain view of the student body, and once the demonstration is over and the students return to class, the person who was "DOA" either does not return to school for the day or returns to class but has to act as if they are not there (no interaction of any kind with remaining students or staff). The most seriously injured "victim" is loaded into a medical helicopter and on occasion the helicopter actually leaves the football field with the "victim" inside.

    We have been doing this for the past 10 years and since then have not had a student involved in a drunk driving accident (which they were at fault) since the program started.

    This is not only a good experience for the students involved but it is also good for the fire departments involved. Since we are a small rural volunteer department we call two other departments mutual aid to assist with EMS, extrication, and setting up a landing zone for the helicopter.

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    MetalMedic
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    This seems fitting to add to this post. While my department was not engaged in the incident, I figured I'd pass it along as food for thought.

    This morning at 0133 hrs. in the northern part of Wayne County, Ohio, a single vehicle accident took the lives of 6 teenagers ages 13-18, and left a seventh seriously injured. See http://www.firehouse.com/news/2000/12/27_APcrash.html

    The 18 year old driver apparently was driving at a high rate of speed and failed to negotiate a curve. The 1996 Buick Park Avenue Ultra struck a large tree at the driver's door. None were wearing seat belts, and as best I could tell from reviewing the report, all but 3 were ejected.

    Among the dead were two sisters, ages 13 and 14 and the 14 year old son of a Creston Firefighter. Creston responded to this call, but I am not sure yet if the father was actually on the scene.

    While still under investigation, the Ohio State Highway Patrol's preliminary findings are that unsafe speed caused the accident and no alcohol or drugs are suspected at this time.

    I hope your efforts in educating your students will prevent a tragedy like this one.



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    mark440
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    I know I am a little late in posting a reply, but, Park City FD (20 miles east of Salt Lake City and host of the 2002 Winter Olympic Games) put on a program of this sort this past spring. They had the students gather on the football field. They set up loud speakers and hooked it into the radio of the FD. They set up 2 cars head-on. Had some outside drama students take part as victims of the wreck. One car had a younger female passenger in the car, concious and breathing. The other occupant was a older female slumped over the steering wheel unconcious obvious DRT. They other car had a female in a prom dress thrown through the windshield and a young man dressed in a tuxedo walking around with no apparent injuries (DUI). They then dispatched fire/ems. The engines and ambulance and law enforcement arrive on scene and go through the accident with extrication/entrapment scenario. They cut the car and everything. DRT's in body bags. They bring in a Air-Med helicopter. It is pretty impressive. They recorded it. You may want to try them and see if they will give you a tape. The tape is only about 10 minutes long. The school set up counciling at the school afterwards. It deterred alot of students from the after affects of the prom. That may be kinda what you are looking for.

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    FFTrainer
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    I might be a little late too, but what the hell, better late than never....

    We do this about every 4 - 5 years for Prom season. Other groups I spoke to found that it waiting the years in between you were getting turn over on the students so that you weren't showing the same kids, the same thing each spring. Looks like it keeps a little higher level of interest.

    My one suggestion is to use students as 'victims.' We have the school principal round up a bunch of students. He generally chooses a representative from the various 'clicks' at the school. He gets the star athlete, the cheerleader, the student council president and so on. This way you stand a better chance of reaching more people with your message since it is their friend in there.

    We generally set it up with kids hitting head on into a family (baby included) with a student laying face on the hood partially ejected. We have a good kit of fake wounds including an amputated hand which really squirts 'blood' -- It seems to be those things, the props, that get the attention. We will generally have at least one fatality, usually the one on the hood so everybody sees the pronouncement by the ME and sees a sheet put over him.

    If you work far enough in advance, we found that we were even able to schedule our local air medical helocopter to make an appearance.

    If you put the time and energy into it, it is a rewarding experience. We have even found that it helps the membership drive for both the juniors program and it actually has gotten a couple of parents and teachers to enroll.

    All and all it's a good experience not to mention good training for your members.

    Good Luck!

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    JAMESBENNETT
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    You guy's are not to late. Our committee just had our second meeting. This presentation is called "Shattered Dreams" and it sounds a lot like the feed back I am getting. I have been placed as the Team Leader of the "Mock Crash Team." I have read all the replies and found a lot of good info that will help us in this endeavor.

    Just an update on where we are. The school board has decided to hold this program during "Alcohol Awareness Week" in November instead of before prom as we had hoped. They said there was testing already scheduled then and when we do the program in two years they will make the time then. We will be doing the "Every 15 Minutes" with this presentation, and from a suggestion earlier we plan to use a few kids to demo some of the more common injuries. The kids that will be in the wreck have all been convicted of alcohol related charges and hand picked by the Municipal Judge. The principal at the school is working on the kids names for the Every 15 Minutes and will try to pull at least one of the student from each group. We have already decided that the Captain of the football team will be a quadriplegic. I already have the commitment from the locate helo to be there, and they will try the drunk teenager in the Municipal Courtroom and broadcast it in to the schools on close circuit TV

    That is about as far as we have made it so far. Please keep the input coming as the program is in the early planning stages yet and your suggestions will help.

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    dimab
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    As I recently graduated high school myself, in 1999, it was my personal experience that pictures do help get the message across. But just flashing pictures will not do the job. You must provide hard facts with these images. Facts such as the lifestyles the kids lived, who are in the pictures. This will help the audience relate their lives to the incidents, and make them think twice about their actions. I think another way of approaching this is to get the kids to have some kind of hands on experience. This might include having some students volunteering their time in an ER or a FD and bringing back their experiences to their peers.

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    DON DELANCEY
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    Our volly dept up here in Canada along with MADD, the RCMP and the local EMS staged an accident directly in front of the local high school 2 min. before the lunch hour. The accident was a high speed drivers side tbone 1 person the passenger of the offending car was ejected trough the windshield and was DOA the driver of same car was impaired,cuffed and taken by police. 2 patience were extricated from the other car 1 unconscious, the other very vocal and combative. We used the drama 30 students for victims and they were assisted by a trauma room nurse to put on makeup and did a great job. We also had support people in place mingling amongst the students that had gathered to watch. This was done because of the realistic nature of the exercise. These people took the students aside toward the end of the scene and assured them that this was just an exercise. There were students that were visibly shaken when they saw that the DOA was some one they knew. The whole exercise was topped off when STARS (shock trauma air rescue society) flew in and took the unconscious patience (switched in the back of an ambulance with one of the air crew for liability reasons) and lifted off in a snow storm. That afternoon a number of us went to the school and presented the participating students with a certificate of appreciation for their part in the exercise, and fielded questions from the students. It was in our opinion, a great success because there was not a single mva involving any students from the grad partys that happened that spring. Our dept. plans to do this exercise every three years because we believe that it does have an impact on the students of our community.

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    jayfire18
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    i know in my department and other in my area got to gether and constructed a senerio that we actully got the cars on a shootign kinda system that projected cars into each other and then had dummies in there the kids and parents did knwo that they were dummie and some from a far distance didn't really know and after the tremendios crash they some hwo i guess had the kids sneak in the vechile while the main instructer was talkign to the groups and when they started the extricatio nthe groups was freaked about the kids being in the wreck and seeing them bleeding and it being fake blood it was pretty damn real to them, so yes i say get as involved as you can with it take it all the way then hopefully sink in to them and also check and see if you can get a heli to land to get the real efect we also had that plus police if you want try and get everyone to respond in liek its a emergency.johnl-2

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