Thread: President Bush to REMOVE funding
03-17-2001, 03:01 PM #1ffMikeKfdFirehouse.com Guest
President Bush to REMOVE funding
Hon. President G.W.Bush Has decided to REMOVE funding of the FIRE Act, which effects EVERY One of Us. It is imperative that we all send letters to him asking him to reconsider this decision. I am asking that you all, your family members,friends and supporters of Firefighters send this letter as Soon as Possible.
This is a major funding that will benefit all of us nation wide as well as helping local communities in offsetting cost of running fire service. We are this nations First Line of Support in most Emergency situations.
Kearny NJ FD
NJ State FMBA Local 18
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Letter to President Bush
03-17-2001, 08:42 PM #2LHS*Firehouse.com Guest
//Has decided to REMOVE funding of the FIRE Act,
It wasn't ever funded.
03-18-2001, 12:24 AM #3ffMikeKfdFirehouse.com Guest
Well Iguess 100million in FY2001 and 300M in FY2002 is not funding ? You tell me.
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03-18-2001, 12:57 AM #4LHS*Firehouse.com Guest
The funds were never appropriated. Now if you want to talk cuts talk about the request for 5 billon that this year will be 100 million. That is a cut in a request for fire funds. But that wasn'r Bush's doing either.
Don't fall in to the game of politics of saying next year will do this when they do not have the power to fund it until the next year and have not made the appropriation.
Just remember it is an annual budget not biannual. So no money was set aside to do anything.
03-18-2001, 11:32 PM #5TO719Firehouse.com Guest
hummm, I thought that fema was still in the process of administering the 100 mil that was funded for this year..
03-19-2001, 01:08 AM #6LHS*Firehouse.com Guest
They are thw 100 million was in the budget, the 300 mil would have been year two if it made it into the budget, made it through the house, then senate then conference then got signed.
The 100 million was supposed to be 5 billion
03-20-2001, 03:25 PM #7RJEFirehouse.com Guest
They just reinstated it, guys.
03-20-2001, 03:55 PM #8LHS*Firehouse.com Guest
Not really, $100 mil is written in the budget, it doesn't mean a thing until it get signed into law.
03-21-2001, 01:13 PM #9RJEFirehouse.com Guest
I understand that, LHS.
Likewise, the original $300mil wasn't either, although there's some confusion on that as well.
The FIRST 100mil is there, and that's what apps are being taken for (or about to be - I'm not following that part).
Next year's budget had (originally - as proposed by Clinton) $300mil for the second year. This is what Bush whacked, from his "proposed" budget.
He's now backed off, and reinstated that request. In other words, the money that was not there yet, was taken away for a couple of weeks, and now it's still not there, yet. Got that?
That's what makes me so frustrated about the tax cut debate in general. The 5.6 trillion surplus - over 10 years. The 1.6 trillion tax cut - over 10 years. The ACTUAL tax cut for NEXT year - 5.6 billion. That's less than 1/2 of 1 percent! The rest is a "politician's promise". Who knows what they'll actually do when we get there.
It's kind of like yesterday's Fed rate cut. Pundits said "better be a point - anything else won't be enough. The market will bump up for a day or two, then go right back in the tank". Guess what? 1/2 point, and the markets were so disappointed, they didn't even get the bump. Down yesterday, and down again today.
BTW, guys - if you're counting on a pension or 401K, they're heavily invested in the market. Your retirement is less than 1/2 as secure today as it was 2 years ago. And it isn't Bush's fault - it started 2 years ago - before the campaign!
Only tax cuts, now and large, are going to do anything short term to help the economy.
Now go read the other Fire Act thread in the firefighter's forum to see why Bush shouldn't have caved.
And if you want to really do something for yourselves, your communities, and your departments - write your congressmen and DEMAND that they get on with real tax cuts. And quit whining about it when they give you less - it will be (if they're honest) because they didn't take it to begin with.
03-21-2001, 04:16 PM #10LHS*Firehouse.com Guest
//Next year's budget had (originally - as proposed by Clinton) $300mil for the second year.
I really hope yo don't believe that. You can put whatever you want in a budget you have no control over. You can promise the world, but he knew he wasn't going to be there. Congress has as much say over the budget as the president.
//This is what Bush whacked, from his "proposed" budget.
Sir it happens every year. Last year they wacked the F22 fighter, not because they didn't want it because they knew it would come back in on its own with a funding source. It required someone else to make difficult decisions.
Nothing is in the budget until it is signed. Up to that point they are just unsupported promises.
//He's now backed off, and reinstated that request.
Actually he hasn't, he cut out 200 mil out of 300 milion line item. The fire service whines about Bush when the first 4.9 billion went down the drain under another president.
//BTW, guys - if you're counting on a pension or 401K, they're heavily invested in the market. Your retirement is less than 1/2 as secure today as it was 2 years ago. And it isn't Bush's fault - it started 2 years ago - before the campaign!
Big brother screwing with Microsoft alone cost at least 25% on the average retirement account according to one source.
03-22-2001, 11:55 AM #11RJEFirehouse.com Guest
//Big brother screwing with Microsoft alone cost at least 25% on the average retirement account according to one source.
03-24-2001, 11:28 AM #12ENG 6511Firehouse.com Guest
Everybody can relax now, the President had FEMA put the entire amount put back in the budget. See various news accounts.
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