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  1. #1
    phyrngn
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    Question Helmet Color and NFPA

    I know that this topic has probably been brought up before, but I'm curious (I've got $100 riding on it): Is there an NFPA standard for helmet color? Which one?

    Specifically...

    Does the standard say that Chiefs and Assistant Chiefs SHALL wear white.
    Captains and Lieutenants SHALL wear Red.
    Engineers SHALL wear Yellow.
    Firefighters SHALL wear Black.

    I was told that the standard required departments to have an SOP on their color, but didn't specifically say what colors.
    Anyone know abouty this?


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    mtnfireguy
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    No there isn't

    Color is up to the department to determine what colors they want to use.

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    Romania
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    There is a sugestion in the standard (or a proposed standard, I can't remember which) that goes like this.

    Command Officers (cheifs ) SHOULD wear white
    Company Officers should wear red
    Interior qualified FF should where Yellow
    non-interior qualified FF should wear Black

    Safety officers should wear blue or green (we use green here in the PHX system, but I think the standard says blue?)

    On a side note... I don't care what any standard says... I like my black helmet.

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    romania@uswest.net
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    My Opinions do not reflect the opnions of the IAFF or Local 3449.



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    phyrngn
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    Thanks for the posts, fellas...would you happen to know the Standard Number?

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    FF McDonald
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    Whether there is a standard or not---

    NFPA is a consensus standard organization. They are not the law.

    I recommend following their advice when it comes to many issues--- but simply put, if there were a Standard on Helmet colors, it would be up to each and every individual Fire Dept to follow that standard.

    Marc

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    stvfd88
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    To my knowledge, there is currently no NFPA standard for color of helmets. Be safe!


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    Scott Lambert
    Seminole Trail Volunteer Fire Department

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    Chris Deyerle
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    Hey man our department is:
    Cheif: white
    Officers: Red
    Firemen: yellow and black

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    Chris Deyerle
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    Hey man our department is:
    Cheif: white
    Officers: Red
    Firemen: yellow and black


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    Stretch
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    Here in Memphis, we just changed helmets.
    Before Chiefs wore white
    Company Commanders wore red
    And everyone else wore yellow
    It made finding your LT inside a fire bldg pretty easy.

    Now, Chiefs still wear white,
    but LT's and firefighters wear black with the only difference between LT's and firefighters is that LT's have a white front on thier helmet, not very helpful if you're behind them.

    If your getting new helmets, keep your LT's and firefighters a seperate color!!

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    aussie george
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    Question

    here in sydney austalia we also changed helmets a while back from
    CHIEFS(DEP CHIEFS)-BLACK
    OPERATIONAL COMMANDERS(batt chiefs)-RED
    STATION COMMANDERS(company officers)-YELLOW
    FIREFIGHTERS-WHITE
    now the helmet colours are
    COMMISSIONAR-DEP COMMISSIONARS-WHITE
    SUPERINTENTENTS(dep chiefs)-RED
    OPERATIONAL COMMANDERS-RED
    STATION COMMANDERS-YELLOW
    FIREFIGHTERS-YELLOW
    with the company officers and firefighters having now the same helmet colour on the fireground it is hard to know who is who.the only difference is company officers have a red and white refective stripe on their helments and firefighters have a white stripe.its still hard for others like the police ect when they ask whos in charge you carnt really say the person in the yellow helmet as most persons on the fireground have one.

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    HIangleLT
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    There is NO NFPA standard on helmet color.
    It is strictly department policy.
    Escambia County Fire Rescue
    Chief Officers: white
    Company Officers: red
    Engineers & F/F : black

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    IA Lt/P
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    Chiefs - White
    Capatains - Yellow
    Lieutenants - Red
    Mechanic - Blue
    FF - Black

    Easy to tell who is the officer and who is the IC. Color coding can be extremely useful (when the owner wants to chew someone out - "talk to the gut with the white hat")

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    IMAFIREFIGHTER4FREE
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    Our department colors are:

    Chief---white helmet

    Capt's and Lt's---yellow helmet

    Safety officer--- yellow helmet holds rank of Capt.

    Training officer--- red helmet

    FF (state FF2)--- black helmet 3 blue stripes

    FF (state FF1)- black helmet 2 yellow stripes

    FF (completed state rookie school)--- black helmet 1 red stripe

    probbie--- black helmet only

    Note: stripes are big enough to see at a distance and are reflective. sounds like if there is a standard it's set by each department.

    Todd of Tn.

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    Dave Grice
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    Our dept. is pretty simple, chief is white and the rest of us have yellow. We hear that this is what we've done and it is too hard to get different colors when we have so many acting officers it would be pointless to give someone a different color helmet for 6 months.

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    RVFDCapt
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    We also keep it pretty simple at our dept:
    Chief officers.........white
    Capt...................Yellow
    Lt.....................Red
    Firefighters and all others...black

    We also use helmet crescents that recognize the position held, i.e., safety officer, Asst. or Dept. Chief, etc.

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    RookieFireFighter
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    Chief and Deputy's are white.
    Captain's are red
    Lieutenants and fire fighters are yellow.

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    StanCap
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    Here in southwest Virginia it's:
    Chief- White
    Assistant Chief- Red
    Captains and Lieutenants- Yellow
    Firefighters- Black

    Stay Safe!

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    Chris Shields
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    The Lyncourt Fire Department located in Onondaga County - Central NY uses:

    Chief and Asst. Chiefs - White
    Safety Officer - White
    Captains - Red
    Lieutenants - Yellow
    Firefighters - Black

    I am a Lieutenant and my leather NY'er is still black but I have a yellow shield on it.

    REAL MEN WEAR BLACK!!!




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