February Survey: Engine Pump/Tank/Hose

[Dalmation90]

Ok, how about this question:
For your first due engine, or for multi-station departments your "typical" engine...

Pump Size
Water Tank
Class A or CAFS system
How much 5"/4" etc supply lines
How many/length/etc attack lines?

I'll start:
ET 190
1500gpm
1200gallon
Class A foam system (plus Class B which isn't used)
1000' 4"
300' 3" preconnect to a master stream
200' 2.5" preconnect
150' 1.75" preconnect (charged reel)
200' 1.5" preconnect (charged reel)
2 -- 150' 1.5" hi rise packs
Some miscellanoues small hose in beds and rolls

ET290 (out of our #2 station)
1000gpm front mount
1200gallon
No plumbed Class A, but carries an eductor setup.
1200' 5"
200' 2.5" preconnect
3 -- 150' 1.75" Mattydales
Plus some miscellanoues hose

[e33]

Engine 33-61: 1994 Simon-Duplex / KME 6 man cab top mount pump panel.

Hale 1500 GPM 2 stage pump with TPM system
1000 Gallon water tank
4" tank to pump line
(2) 200' 1 3/4" attack lines
(1) 100' 1 3/4" Bumper "trash" line
(1) 200' 3" "Blitz" line rear hosebed
Prepiped Akron Apollo deck gun stacked tips and selectable nozzle
200' dead load 1 3/4" hose
150' bundle 1 3/4" with wye attached, stored on top of 3" hose
1200' 5" LDH
1000' 3"
150' 1/3'4" Foam line (dead load, ready to be hooked to discharge or end of line already in use)


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The opinions and views expressed herin are solely mine and not on the behalf of any department or organization I belong to.




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[Tommy4975]

I'll go next

Engine 1211
1000 gallons
1500 gpm pump
2 150' 1 3/4" crosslays w/ TFT nozzles
1 150' 2 1/2" preconnected off of back
Currently 2000' 3" supply (split lay) w/ 1500' 5" LDH on order (about time)
Removable prepiped deck gun with TFT and smooth bore available
200' 1 3/4" w/ spare nozzle donut rolled for extended lines or additional lines

[FyredUp]

My turn.......

Volly FD:


1250 GPM Waterous
500 Gallon tank (no rural area)
1050' of 5" supply hose
200'-3" preconnected to a stinger
100'-1 3/4" trash line
2:200'-2" preconnects
300'-2" preconnect
200'-2 1/2" preconnect (soon to be replaced with a 400'-3" deadlay with a wye and 150' of 2" to allow a long stretch on some of our businesses in town.)
100'-spare rolled 2"
150'-spare 3"
200'-1" forestry hose preconnected


Career job:

1250 pump
750 gallon tank
1000'-2 1/2", last 100' bundled with a 250 nozzle attached
1000'-2 1/2" attached to a gated wye with a bundle pack of 150' of 1 3/4" hose
2:200'-1 3/4" preconnects,
100'-1 1/2" trashline
150'-1 3/4" bundle pack
100-spare 1 3/4"

[S. Cook]

City or County our rigs are setup all the same:

1500pump (3 derated to 1,250 for the old keyrate system)
750 tank
Preconnects:
(1) 100' 1" overhaul/trash bumper line
(1) 100' 1-3/4" line SM20 car/dumpster bumper line
(1) 150' 1-3/4" line SM30
(1) 200' 1-3/4" line SM30
(1) 200' 2" line SM30
(1) 200' 3" Big Paulie
1,200' 5" in 50' sections, can be laid one long stretch or dual 600'ers
Pro Pak foam set up
Additional educted foam capabailities

[pompanofd]

EMERGENCY ONE HUSH CUSTOM RESCUE PUMPERS
EXTENDED CAB SET UP FOR 4 FF

1500 GPM
500 GALLON TANK
CLASS A FOAM SYSTEM
1600' 3" HOSE (SUPPLY)
2-1 3/4" 200' PRECONNECTS
150' HI-RISE KIT
75' FRONT BUMPER TRASH LINE

[Ledbelly]

Here's the "typical" set up, though we do have 3-4 1500gpm/750g engines...

1250gpm
500g
No foam systems, but all usually carry 15-20g of AFFF and an eductor
1300' 5"
800' 3"
150' 2.5" attack line
150'/200' 1.75" preconnects
miscellaneous joints of 1.75", 2.5", 3" & 5"
150' 2.5" hi rise pack
1" booster reel
monitor(some pre-plumbed, all portable)

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[ricky]

All three front line engines{Spartan/Ferrara} MFD
1250 GPM
1000 gallon tank
30 gallon "Class A" tank
Hale Foampro
100' 1 3/4 front bumper trashline with Bubblecup nozzle
2 200'1 3/4 crosslays with Akron 5228
1 200'2 1/2 crosslay with Akron 5228 on a playpipe
100' 1" forestry hose preconnect on front bumper with two 100' spare rolls and bubblecup nozzle
One Highrise Pack consisting of 25'3", Akron Waterthief, 100 1 3/4, and an Akron 5228
1000' 5" Snaptite with Storz couplings
500' 3" Snaptite with nst couplings
All of our attack hose is either Snaptite or Angus "Redchief"
We use Class A on everything we do
Our 3" supply line is loaded as such but has a double male in the top coupling to simplify it's use as an attack line for our preconnects or our High Rise pack.
Akron Apollo monitor with TFT Extendagun and Portable base/
Sutphen Quint carries the same crosslays and has the same supply lines except it carries 900' of 3" and it carries three HighRise Packs

[SBrooks]

Urban Career dept

Newest rigs

E-one Cylcone II
Detroit Diesel series 50 305
Hale Qflow 1250
Detroit Diesel Fire commander
Hale class b foam proportioner
500 gwt
front & rear 4" soft sleeves
100' 1.5" bumper line
2 200' 1.5" crosslays
350 1.5" rear preconnect
2 100' 1.5" standpipe racks
all 1.5" lines have a constant volume break apart 125gpm fog nozzle
200' 2.5" rear preconnect
2.5" has a 225 gpm constant flow fog or a smoothbore
800' 3" with an Akron hydrant valve
800' 4"

There is talk of changing all of the 1.5" hose to 1.75" with a 150 gpm @ 75 psi break apart nozzle over a 15/16" smoothbore tip.

[wofd1]

our first out engine is set-up as follows;
1993 KME SFD RENEGADE
1500 gpm Hale
1000 gal. poly tank (4"tank to pump)
Robwen class"A" built in ( 10 gal.)
1500' 5" Angus 700' 3" dbl.jacket
pre-cons
1- 1 1/2"x 150' trash line (frt.bmpr)
2- 1 3/4"x 200' w/ auto nozzle
1- 1 3/4"x 250' w/ auto nozzle
1- 2" x 300' w/ auto nozzle
1-3" x 350' bomb line
also 1- 1 3/4"x 150' hi-rise pack

stay safe

[D. Anderson]

I'll go with the style of engine that we're purchasing now, we have six of them now out of twenty.

Engine 8 (my company)
Freightliner FL-106
1500 single stage Waterous
500 gallon tank
Akron Apollo Hi-Riser pre-piped deck gun
1000 feet 4 inch
900 feet 2-1/2 inch (last 600 feet loaded in a deadlay ending at wye and 100ft 1-3/4 bundle)
250 foot 1-3/4 preconnect
50 foot 1-3/4 trash line
35 foot 4 inch "cheater" section
100 foot 1-3/4 high fire bundle with wye
50 foot 2-1/2 high fire bundle
department standard foam educter
trial foam educter

[benson911]

1987 E-One

1250GPM, 750 gallons
No Class "A" foam (That costs extra, right? Then we can't have it.)
900' 4" supply, 4 preconnected 1.75" lines
2 - 150', one straight, one automatic TFT
2 - 200', one straight, one automatic TFT
600' 2.5", with Combination or Straight Tip
1 high rise pack - 1.75" hose(I know, not big enough)
1 Booster reel - love that thing.
One ISI Thermal Imager
24' Extension Ladder
14' Roof Ladder
1 Generator with two 500 Watt lights
Lots of tools, no room for any of it.
Oh yeah, EMS gear, too.


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[Dave Grice]

My turn...
Out of St #1 is Engine 111, a 1993 Pierce Arrow -->1250 gpm
-->500 gal. tank
-->Not plumbed for class A but has an eductor setup (used once or twice for training)
-->1000' 4" supply
-->300' 3" for standpipe connections
-->2 200' of 1 3/4" preconnect
-->1 400' of 1 3/4" preconnect
-->1 200' of 2 1/2" preconnect
-->200' of extra 2 1/2"
-->high-rise pack with 150' of 1 3/4"
-->50' 1 3/4" for autos and misc. on the back
From St #2 we run a 1998 Ferrara 109' Ladder Truck with pump capabilities. It's specs. are the same as the engine, but we have a couple hundred extra feet of 4" supply, no 3" to hook into a standpipe (have to get it from Eng.111, same with the eductor). And the 50' trash line is in the front.

[Lieutenant Gonzo]

Marlborough Engine 3 "The Beast in the East"

1988 E-One on a Ford C8000 chassis w/crew cab compartment (similar to the Washington DC rigs)

1250 GPM Hale single stage pump
750 gallons of water

100' 1.75" trash line
150' 1.75" preconnect one
200' 2" preconnect two
300' 1.75" left rear discharge
These lines have Akron Brass SM-30 combination nozzles.
200' 2.5" right rear discharge w/1.125 smooth bore nozzle.
1600' of 3" supply line split into two beds of 800' each.
150' reel 1" booster line.
High rise pack is 150" 1.75" ww/SM-30

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Take care and be safe...Lt. Gonzo

[LHS]

Pump Size 2300 gpm

Water Tank 2500

Class A or CAFS system

CAFS, Class A 90 gal, B 90 gal 1%, gel varies in amount

How much 5"/4" etc supply lines

1 5" mile per engine

How many/length/etc attack

lines? three 400' ers 2", seven 150'ers 2", one 150'er 1". One 50'er 1 inch and a pair of 250 2 1/2" lines with 600 gpm nozzles plus three master streams. The ladder trucks only carry 2000 gallons and 1/2 miile of 5" otherwise the same.

[BURNSEMS]

E-1 1980 ALF 1000gpm 750 tank
1350 3" Flat Lay soon will have 5"
2 - 200 ft Cross Lays 1 1/2
1 Skid Load 100 ft 3" to a Y 200 Ft 1 1/2
1 250 Side Mount 3" w/Big Paulie
1 150 Red Line Booster reel

E-2 1962 Chevy/Rescue/ Booster 9000 org Miles runs and Pumps at origional specs
500 gal 500gpm
1000 ft 2 1/2 Split Load
2 150 Cross Lay 1 1/2
EMS Equipment/ Rescue Equip
various equipment and connectors



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[G Koons]

Rural Northeast PA
Engine 111 1977 ALF
1000 gpm two stage 500 gal fiberglass tank
(3) 1.5 fog nozzle 150 ft preconn
(1) 1.75 straight tip 200 ft preconn
(1) 2.5 fog nozzle 150 preconn
800 ft 4 in
1000 ft 3 in bed split in 2 sections
front suction and a 4in discharge for LDH

backed up by a 1995 1800 gal and a 1997 2000 gal stainless steel Freightliner/New Lexington stainless steel tankers.(all single rear axel)

Next due 1990 ALF 1500 gmp single stage 500 gal tank pumper rescue

[KATN61]

Pump: 1250 ss
Tank: 750 gal
Supply hose: 1375ft of 5in
Attck lines:
1-100ft 1.75in
1-150ft 1.75in
3-200ft 1.75in
1-200ft 3in
1-200ft 3in gated Y line ( all 1.75in lines have cheater sections so we can disconnect them and add to Y line)

[ChiefDog]

Depending on the call our 1st due changes but they are as follows:

Engine 1 --- Engine 3
1000 gpm --- 1750gpm
1000 tank --- 1000 tank

preconnect -- - preconnect
150' 1.75" -- - 150' 1.75"
200' 1.75" -- - 200' 1.75"
150' 2.5" --- 150' 2.5"
500' 1.5" --- 1400' 1.5"
1350 2.5"fwd --- 1200' 2.5" reverse
no LDH -- - 1000' 5"
eductor b -- - FoamPro 2002 a/b
15 gal B --- - 20g A / 30g B
5"jet dump -- - 10" Newton

Hope this formats correctly...


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[cacfpd]

1995 E-1 1250/1000
1200' 3"supply hose
2x200' 1 3/4" crosslays
200' 3" preconnect
200' 1 1/2" dead load
200' red line
Portable eductor with 25 gal AFF
Prepiped deck gun with stack tips
(can be removed to use as ground monitor)

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