1. #1
    Dalmation90
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    Cool February Survey: Engine Pump/Tank/Hose

    Ok, how about this question:
    For your first due engine, or for multi-station departments your "typical" engine...

    Pump Size
    Water Tank
    Class A or CAFS system
    How much 5"/4" etc supply lines
    How many/length/etc attack lines?

    I'll start:
    ET 190
    1500gpm
    1200gallon
    Class A foam system (plus Class B which isn't used)
    1000' 4"
    300' 3" preconnect to a master stream
    200' 2.5" preconnect
    150' 1.75" preconnect (charged reel)
    200' 1.5" preconnect (charged reel)
    2 -- 150' 1.5" hi rise packs
    Some miscellanoues small hose in beds and rolls

    ET290 (out of our #2 station)
    1000gpm front mount
    1200gallon
    No plumbed Class A, but carries an eductor setup.
    1200' 5"
    200' 2.5" preconnect
    3 -- 150' 1.75" Mattydales
    Plus some miscellanoues hose

  2. #2
    e33
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    Engine 33-61: 1994 Simon-Duplex / KME 6 man cab top mount pump panel.

    Hale 1500 GPM 2 stage pump with TPM system
    1000 Gallon water tank
    4" tank to pump line
    (2) 200' 1 3/4" attack lines
    (1) 100' 1 3/4" Bumper "trash" line
    (1) 200' 3" "Blitz" line rear hosebed
    Prepiped Akron Apollo deck gun stacked tips and selectable nozzle
    200' dead load 1 3/4" hose
    150' bundle 1 3/4" with wye attached, stored on top of 3" hose
    1200' 5" LDH
    1000' 3"
    150' 1/3'4" Foam line (dead load, ready to be hooked to discharge or end of line already in use)


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    The opinions and views expressed herin are solely mine and not on the behalf of any department or organization I belong to.




    [This message has been edited by e33 (edited February 08, 2000).]

  3. #3
    Tommy4975
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    I'll go next

    Engine 1211
    1000 gallons
    1500 gpm pump
    2 150' 1 3/4" crosslays w/ TFT nozzles
    1 150' 2 1/2" preconnected off of back
    Currently 2000' 3" supply (split lay) w/ 1500' 5" LDH on order (about time)
    Removable prepiped deck gun with TFT and smooth bore available
    200' 1 3/4" w/ spare nozzle donut rolled for extended lines or additional lines

  4. #4
    FyredUp
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    My turn.......

    Volly FD:


    1250 GPM Waterous
    500 Gallon tank (no rural area)
    1050' of 5" supply hose
    200'-3" preconnected to a stinger
    100'-1 3/4" trash line
    2:200'-2" preconnects
    300'-2" preconnect
    200'-2 1/2" preconnect (soon to be replaced with a 400'-3" deadlay with a wye and 150' of 2" to allow a long stretch on some of our businesses in town.)
    100'-spare rolled 2"
    150'-spare 3"
    200'-1" forestry hose preconnected


    Career job:

    1250 pump
    750 gallon tank
    1000'-2 1/2", last 100' bundled with a 250 nozzle attached
    1000'-2 1/2" attached to a gated wye with a bundle pack of 150' of 1 3/4" hose
    2:200'-1 3/4" preconnects,
    100'-1 1/2" trashline
    150'-1 3/4" bundle pack
    100-spare 1 3/4"



  5. #5
    S. Cook
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    City or County our rigs are setup all the same:

    1500pump (3 derated to 1,250 for the old keyrate system)
    750 tank
    Preconnects:
    (1) 100' 1" overhaul/trash bumper line
    (1) 100' 1-3/4" line SM20 car/dumpster bumper line
    (1) 150' 1-3/4" line SM30
    (1) 200' 1-3/4" line SM30
    (1) 200' 2" line SM30
    (1) 200' 3" Big Paulie
    1,200' 5" in 50' sections, can be laid one long stretch or dual 600'ers
    Pro Pak foam set up
    Additional educted foam capabailities

  6. #6
    pompanofd
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    EMERGENCY ONE HUSH CUSTOM RESCUE PUMPERS
    EXTENDED CAB SET UP FOR 4 FF

    1500 GPM
    500 GALLON TANK
    CLASS A FOAM SYSTEM
    1600' 3" HOSE (SUPPLY)
    2-1 3/4" 200' PRECONNECTS
    150' HI-RISE KIT
    75' FRONT BUMPER TRASH LINE

  7. #7
    Ledbelly
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    Cool

    Here's the "typical" set up, though we do have 3-4 1500gpm/750g engines...

    1250gpm
    500g
    No foam systems, but all usually carry 15-20g of AFFF and an eductor
    1300' 5"
    800' 3"
    150' 2.5" attack line
    150'/200' 1.75" preconnects
    miscellaneous joints of 1.75", 2.5", 3" & 5"
    150' 2.5" hi rise pack
    1" booster reel
    monitor(some pre-plumbed, all portable)

    [This message has been edited by Ledbelly (edited February 05, 2000).]

  8. #8
    ricky
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    All three front line engines{Spartan/Ferrara} MFD
    1250 GPM
    1000 gallon tank
    30 gallon "Class A" tank
    Hale Foampro
    100' 1 3/4 front bumper trashline with Bubblecup nozzle
    2 200'1 3/4 crosslays with Akron 5228
    1 200'2 1/2 crosslay with Akron 5228 on a playpipe
    100' 1" forestry hose preconnect on front bumper with two 100' spare rolls and bubblecup nozzle
    One Highrise Pack consisting of 25'3", Akron Waterthief, 100 1 3/4, and an Akron 5228
    1000' 5" Snaptite with Storz couplings
    500' 3" Snaptite with nst couplings
    All of our attack hose is either Snaptite or Angus "Redchief"
    We use Class A on everything we do
    Our 3" supply line is loaded as such but has a double male in the top coupling to simplify it's use as an attack line for our preconnects or our High Rise pack.
    Akron Apollo monitor with TFT Extendagun and Portable base/
    Sutphen Quint carries the same crosslays and has the same supply lines except it carries 900' of 3" and it carries three HighRise Packs

  9. #9
    SBrooks
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    Urban Career dept

    Newest rigs

    E-one Cylcone II
    Detroit Diesel series 50 305
    Hale Qflow 1250
    Detroit Diesel Fire commander
    Hale class b foam proportioner
    500 gwt
    front & rear 4" soft sleeves
    100' 1.5" bumper line
    2 200' 1.5" crosslays
    350 1.5" rear preconnect
    2 100' 1.5" standpipe racks
    all 1.5" lines have a constant volume break apart 125gpm fog nozzle
    200' 2.5" rear preconnect
    2.5" has a 225 gpm constant flow fog or a smoothbore
    800' 3" with an Akron hydrant valve
    800' 4"

    There is talk of changing all of the 1.5" hose to 1.75" with a 150 gpm @ 75 psi break apart nozzle over a 15/16" smoothbore tip.

  10. #10
    wofd1
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    Cool

    our first out engine is set-up as follows;
    1993 KME SFD RENEGADE
    1500 gpm Hale
    1000 gal. poly tank (4"tank to pump)
    Robwen class"A" built in ( 10 gal.)
    1500' 5" Angus 700' 3" dbl.jacket
    pre-cons
    1- 1 1/2"x 150' trash line (frt.bmpr)
    2- 1 3/4"x 200' w/ auto nozzle
    1- 1 3/4"x 250' w/ auto nozzle
    1- 2" x 300' w/ auto nozzle
    1-3" x 350' bomb line
    also 1- 1 3/4"x 150' hi-rise pack

    stay safe

  11. #11
    D. Anderson
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    I'll go with the style of engine that we're purchasing now, we have six of them now out of twenty.

    Engine 8 (my company)
    Freightliner FL-106
    1500 single stage Waterous
    500 gallon tank
    Akron Apollo Hi-Riser pre-piped deck gun
    1000 feet 4 inch
    900 feet 2-1/2 inch (last 600 feet loaded in a deadlay ending at wye and 100ft 1-3/4 bundle)
    250 foot 1-3/4 preconnect
    50 foot 1-3/4 trash line
    35 foot 4 inch "cheater" section
    100 foot 1-3/4 high fire bundle with wye
    50 foot 2-1/2 high fire bundle
    department standard foam educter
    trial foam educter

  12. #12
    benson911
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    1987 E-One

    1250GPM, 750 gallons
    No Class "A" foam (That costs extra, right? Then we can't have it.)
    900' 4" supply, 4 preconnected 1.75" lines
    2 - 150', one straight, one automatic TFT
    2 - 200', one straight, one automatic TFT
    600' 2.5", with Combination or Straight Tip
    1 high rise pack - 1.75" hose(I know, not big enough)
    1 Booster reel - love that thing.
    One ISI Thermal Imager
    24' Extension Ladder
    14' Roof Ladder
    1 Generator with two 500 Watt lights
    Lots of tools, no room for any of it.
    Oh yeah, EMS gear, too.


    [This message has been edited by benson911 (edited February 05, 2000).]

  13. #13
    Dave Grice
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    My turn...
    Out of St #1 is Engine 111, a 1993 Pierce Arrow -->1250 gpm
    -->500 gal. tank
    -->Not plumbed for class A but has an eductor setup (used once or twice for training)
    -->1000' 4" supply
    -->300' 3" for standpipe connections
    -->2 200' of 1 3/4" preconnect
    -->1 400' of 1 3/4" preconnect
    -->1 200' of 2 1/2" preconnect
    -->200' of extra 2 1/2"
    -->high-rise pack with 150' of 1 3/4"
    -->50' 1 3/4" for autos and misc. on the back
    From St #2 we run a 1998 Ferrara 109' Ladder Truck with pump capabilities. It's specs. are the same as the engine, but we have a couple hundred extra feet of 4" supply, no 3" to hook into a standpipe (have to get it from Eng.111, same with the eductor). And the 50' trash line is in the front.

  14. #14
    Lieutenant Gonzo
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    Cool

    Marlborough Engine 3 "The Beast in the East"

    1988 E-One on a Ford C8000 chassis w/crew cab compartment (similar to the Washington DC rigs)

    1250 GPM Hale single stage pump
    750 gallons of water

    100' 1.75" trash line
    150' 1.75" preconnect one
    200' 2" preconnect two
    300' 1.75" left rear discharge
    These lines have Akron Brass SM-30 combination nozzles.
    200' 2.5" right rear discharge w/1.125 smooth bore nozzle.
    1600' of 3" supply line split into two beds of 800' each.
    150' reel 1" booster line.
    High rise pack is 150" 1.75" ww/SM-30

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    Take care and be safe...Lt. Gonzo

  15. #15
    LHS
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    Pump Size 2300 gpm

    Water Tank 2500

    Class A or CAFS system

    CAFS, Class A 90 gal, B 90 gal 1%, gel varies in amount

    How much 5"/4" etc supply lines

    1 5" mile per engine

    How many/length/etc attack

    lines? three 400' ers 2", seven 150'ers 2", one 150'er 1". One 50'er 1 inch and a pair of 250 2 1/2" lines with 600 gpm nozzles plus three master streams. The ladder trucks only carry 2000 gallons and 1/2 miile of 5" otherwise the same.

  16. #16
    BURNSEMS
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    Wink

    E-1 1980 ALF 1000gpm 750 tank
    1350 3" Flat Lay soon will have 5"
    2 - 200 ft Cross Lays 1 1/2
    1 Skid Load 100 ft 3" to a Y 200 Ft 1 1/2
    1 250 Side Mount 3" w/Big Paulie
    1 150 Red Line Booster reel

    E-2 1962 Chevy/Rescue/ Booster 9000 org Miles runs and Pumps at origional specs
    500 gal 500gpm
    1000 ft 2 1/2 Split Load
    2 150 Cross Lay 1 1/2
    EMS Equipment/ Rescue Equip
    various equipment and connectors



    [This message has been edited by BURNSEMS (edited February 06, 2000).]

  17. #17
    G Koons
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    Rural Northeast PA
    Engine 111 1977 ALF
    1000 gpm two stage 500 gal fiberglass tank
    (3) 1.5 fog nozzle 150 ft preconn
    (1) 1.75 straight tip 200 ft preconn
    (1) 2.5 fog nozzle 150 preconn
    800 ft 4 in
    1000 ft 3 in bed split in 2 sections
    front suction and a 4in discharge for LDH

    backed up by a 1995 1800 gal and a 1997 2000 gal stainless steel Freightliner/New Lexington stainless steel tankers.(all single rear axel)

    Next due 1990 ALF 1500 gmp single stage 500 gal tank pumper rescue



  18. #18
    KATN61
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    Pump: 1250 ss
    Tank: 750 gal
    Supply hose: 1375ft of 5in
    Attck lines:
    1-100ft 1.75in
    1-150ft 1.75in
    3-200ft 1.75in
    1-200ft 3in
    1-200ft 3in gated Y line ( all 1.75in lines have cheater sections so we can disconnect them and add to Y line)

  19. #19
    ChiefDog
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    Depending on the call our 1st due changes but they are as follows:

    Engine 1 --- Engine 3
    1000 gpm --- 1750gpm
    1000 tank --- 1000 tank

    preconnect -- - preconnect
    150' 1.75" -- - 150' 1.75"
    200' 1.75" -- - 200' 1.75"
    150' 2.5" --- 150' 2.5"
    500' 1.5" --- 1400' 1.5"
    1350 2.5"fwd --- 1200' 2.5" reverse
    no LDH -- - 1000' 5"
    eductor b -- - FoamPro 2002 a/b
    15 gal B --- - 20g A / 30g B
    5"jet dump -- - 10" Newton

    Hope this formats correctly...


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  20. #20
    cacfpd
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    Talking

    1995 E-1 1250/1000
    1200' 3"supply hose
    2x200' 1 3/4" crosslays
    200' 3" preconnect
    200' 1 1/2" dead load
    200' red line
    Portable eductor with 25 gal AFF
    Prepiped deck gun with stack tips
    (can be removed to use as ground monitor)

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  21. #21
    smitheps
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    Structure Fire:

    1982 Kenworth/E-One/cab-over/50ft telesquirt
    1500gpm 2 stage hale/500gal water 50gal afff
    1000ft 5in in split beds (hose ends connected)
    3 preconnects two 2in 200ft one 2-1/2 200ft
    k-12, quick vent, roof and chimney kit
    gas ppv 24in fan/electric 16in smoke ejector
    6kw onan diesel fired gen.
    2 150 ft 1-3/4 high-rise kits
    lots of other small goodies

    All other fires/second on a structure

    1998 Sparten 3D (now american lafrance)
    1000gpm/750 gal CAFS /50gal class a/50gal class b
    portable deluge set/removable deck gun
    FAS Team rescue equipment (too much to list)
    Life Pak 500 AED/Full trauma bag
    1000+ 5in/500ft 3in
    3 preconnects (see above)
    1 150ft preconnected afff line
    A/AB/BC/D extinguishers
    385gpm trash pump
    6kw diesel fired generator
    full complement of wood cribbing
    18in Still chainsaw
    leaf blower/assorted brush fire equip
    other goodies

  22. #22
    Bob Snyder
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    Cool

    For structure fires, primary attack is done from "Truck 57":

    1980 Pierce Arrow Quint
    55' LTI aerial ladder with 4" waterway, ground- and tip-controlled nozzle, waterway supply either from the pump or from rear bypass inlet/outlets (reversable)
    2 - 150'/200' (extendable) 1.75" precon crosslays with Akron Turbojet Nozzles
    1 - 100' side mounted 1.75" precon trash line with (old) turbojet nozzle
    1 - 150' 2.5" rear precon attack line with straight bore nozzle
    Extra nozzles to switch lines to/from straight bore and fog, as needed
    600' 4" supply line (Stortz)
    600' 3" supply line (forward lay)
    500 gal tank
    1000 gpm 2-stage Waterous pump
    We're working out how we're going to add another 200' 1.75" precon attack line, on which we'll put a staight bore nozzle (we'll install it in a month or two...we just have to think on it a bit before we start drilling holes, etc.)

    The first out for non-structure fires is "Engine 57", a 1972/1988 Mack CF600. The precon lines and pump are essentially the same (the trash line has a Navy Nozzle on it), there is no aerial device, there are 800' each of 3" (reverse lay) and 4" (stortz) supply line, and the tank is 750 gals. Also carries 3 sections of hard sleeve, float dock, basket, and low-level strainers, and adapters to hook to the dry hydrants used in the surrounding townships.

    Hi-rise packs and such are on "Ladder 57", which has no useful pump/water of its own.


    [This message has been edited by Bob Snyder (edited February 14, 2000).]

  23. #23
    LT trk106
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    Cool

    OUR LEAD ENGINE IS A 1998 PEIRCE QAUNTOM RESCUE PUMPER.
    ENGINE 104
    1500 GPM. 2-STAGE PUMP WITH ELECTRONIC GOV.
    750 GAL. POLY TANK.
    2-200' 1 3/4" ATTACK LINES.
    1-100' 1 3/4" BUMPER LINE
    1-200' 2 1/2" REAR PRECONNECT.
    1-150' 1" BOOSTER LINE.
    700' STRAIGHT LAY 2 1/2" AT REAR.
    300' REVERSE LAY 2 1/2" AT REAR.
    700' 5" AT REAR
    1- 100' HIGHRISE PAK.
    1- 35' EXT. LADDER
    1- 14' ROOF LADDER
    1- 10' ATTIC LADDER- ALL ON LADDER RACK.
    PRE-PIPED STINGER DECK GUN WITH STACK TIPS.

    LT.

  24. #24
    jsouza
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    Engine 1, 1986 E-One Hurricane

    1250gpm Hale single stage pump
    500 gallon water tank
    40 gallon on-board foam tank
    1000' 4" hose
    800' 3" hose
    150' 3" leader line w/ gated wye
    3 - 200' 1.75" preconnects
    1 - 250' 1.75" preconnect
    1 - 150' 2.5" line
    1 - 150' 2.5" "large floor area building" pack (highrise pack for a town without highrises)
    200' 0.75" booster
    1000gpm removable prepiped deck gun, w/ ground base

    Engines 2 ('92 E-One Protector), 3 ('97 E-One Cyclone II), and 4 ('94 E-One Protector XL)

    1250 gpm pumps
    500 gallon tanks
    E4 only, ~50 gallon foam tank
    1000' 4"
    ~800' 3"
    4 - 200' 1.75" preconnects
    1 - 250' 2.5" preconnect
    1000 gpm prepiped removable deck gun w/ ground base


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    "I can think of no more stirring symbol of man's humanity to man than a fire engine" -- Kurt Vonnegut

  25. #25
    Tim Schaffner
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    We have Twin Wagons 89 Seagraves
    1750 gpm waterous
    1000 gal tank
    3- 200' 1 3/4 precon
    1- 300' 1 3/4 precon
    1- 200' 2 1/2 precon
    1- 200' 3" precon
    1- wagon pipe
    1- portable gun
    400' 3" line
    1200' 5" supply line
    15 gal class b foam w/ eductor
    Complete Amkus system
    vetter air bags
    2- sawsalls
    2- recue saws
    Vehicle stabilization eq.
    Ems equip.
    misc hand tools
    Elec fan
    200' work rope
    200' life line
    2- throw bags
    misc. extingishers
    spill control supplies
    gas meter
    heat gun

    Mt Holly Springs Pa


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