Thread: Size Up
02-07-2001, 09:49 PM #1FF35Firehouse.com Guest
Just a quick question to settle a discussion. You roll up on a job. The fire building is a single family, wood frame with 2 floors (occupied) and an attic (unoccupied). Is it a 2 story or a 2 and a half story???
02-07-2001, 11:29 PM #2Captain GonzoFirehouse.com Guest
I would call it a 2 and half story and start fighting the fire...if we argue about building size, it will be a cellar hole!
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02-08-2001, 04:20 AM #3MetalMedicFirehouse.com Guest
So does that make your typical ranch a 1 1/2 story? I agree that it is trivial in the big picture to argue over a half a story, but I always felt a half story was where you had dormers in the attic that could indicate an additional occupied level of the structure.
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02-08-2001, 09:38 AM #4Les.HFirehouse.com Guest
I would call it a two story construction, as most of ours is in the UK, with a roof space. If it was occupied then it would be a 3 floor construction. We don't do things by halves.
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02-08-2001, 11:21 AM #5Mr.MeanerFirehouse.com Guest
If I was the officer aboard the first arriving unit my department SOP would require me to report it as 2 1/2.
02-08-2001, 06:34 PM #6JBingo18Firehouse.com Guest
Nothing in our SOP's differentiate the difference between a (2)story vs. (2.5)story or a (1)story vs. (1.5)story.
But generally a dormer would indicate a half.
So a ranch with a dormer would be a (1.5)story vs. a ranch without a dormer would be a (1)story.
Although in reality who cares.......
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02-09-2001, 05:14 PM #7RJEFirehouse.com Guest
Back home, dormers were rare (just due to construction styles) so everything was 1, 2 or 3, no 1/2s of anything.
Here in Tulsa they use the "and a half" terminology. Some neighborhoods (either really old or fairly new) they mean w/a finished attic, but with less square footage than the main floor - as in dormers. In my neighborhood, though, they mean 1/2 a floor. Lots of houses on 50' x 100' lots. No room to add on (or lose your back yard), so many houses have had a second floor added over the bedrooms (typically turning a 2bed/1bath into a 4/2, or a 3/1 into a 5/2). They look really funny, since the roofline looks like a narrow lot ranch (runs back instead of across) but there's this block sticking up behind it!
They really are one and a half stories. Living, dining and kitchen (front half) is 1 story, back half is 2 story, w/bedrooms over bedrooms.
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