Thread: Pierce Quantums
02-20-2000, 12:08 AM #1Hammerhead338Firehouse.com Guest
Is anyone having problems with the Pierce Quantums. We have a 1999, for the moment we havent had any problems with the steps coming up, but for along time it was a problem. Our big problem is several of the doors will pop off the first safty latch, but they havent come off the second latch.
Is anyone else having this problem, and if so what have you tryed to fix the problem.
Have a good day and be safe.
02-22-2000, 11:50 PM #2Truckie from MissouriFirehouse.com Guest
We have ordered two of them, one is already in service. Havent had any problems with the doors, at least not yet (knock on wood). The only problem I've had with the cab is getting my door to open ( I sit behind the officer's seat). The paddle opens away from me, and at double-dark thirty when you aren't awake enough yet, it's kind of unnerving to be fiddling with the door. First time it happened to me I rolled the window down and used the exterior paddle to open the door. Oh well.
Here's what our ladder truck looks like. Not too shabby for a yellow truck!
<p align="center"><img src="http://www.cjcfpd.org/newh&l1.jpg" alt="CJC Ladder Company No. 1's new truck."></p>
It's a '99 Pierce Quantum 105 foot aerial with 2000 GPM pump, 500 gallon tank, All-Steer, & has seating for 5 in an air conditioned cab.
02-23-2000, 11:44 AM #3NEOgregFirehouse.com Guest
My dept. has a '97 Quantum---trouble with the doors (especially the driver's and officer's) was the hinges loosening up and the doors sagging against or away from the Nader pin. This resulted in the doors becomming increasingly harder to open (actually two-handed on the paddle when exiting from the cab!).
The problem was corrected by our local Pierce rep, but I agree with the previous poster that the handle placement is still awkward and not something that you can quickly operate.
On a side note, beware of the drop-down stairs---one of our pump operators got clocked in the face by a deploying step while picking up after a fire. As he bent over to pick up the wheel chock, he apparently grabbed the door handle to steady himself, accidentally popping the latch and causing the step to open---directly into his face! He was fortunate to suffer only a mild concussion and was back to work the next day (I know that we're always supposed to wear our helmets, but this is a little extreme...).
02-26-2000, 01:02 AM #4Hammerhead338Firehouse.com Guest
Truckie and NEOgreg, thanks for your post's. I forgot about the doors being hard to open from inside the cab, and yes it is a pain. As for the steps they are painfull if you get hit by one, I was cleaning up the truck and someone opened the door and the step hit me in the head, good thing that there is nothing up there to hurt.
Have a good day and be safe.
02-26-2000, 09:14 AM #5R CM203Firehouse.com Guest
We have just put 2 Quantum Rescue/Pumpers in service. We have found that in cold weather the steps are slower to deploy so dont be so quick to get out of the cab. Also give yourself plenty of room on the sides when spotting the apparatus with the doors open and the steps down the rig is a lot wider. We have had a continuing problem with the open door alarms and the rep has not been able to solve this problem...real annoying !!!
[This message has been edited by R CM203 (edited February 26, 2000).]
02-27-2000, 05:49 PM #6pikepoleFirehouse.com Guest
We have a '96 Quantum that has been nothing but a pain. The doors constantly stick, or pop to the safety latch and then rattle as you go down the road. We have a service rep. in about every 60 days to adjust them. The adjusment will last about a 2 weeks and then they get progressively more difficult to open.
Also we had the left front main spring break (it separated about 2-3 inches) while responding to a call (about 28,000 mi. on the clock). It sounded and felt as though we flipped a manhole cover. We replaced both sets of fronts springs. About 2 months later the right rear main spring broke just aft of the axle, again separating 2-3 inches. About 6 months later the left rear main spring bolt bent which caused the rear of the pumper to track to the right by about 8 inches.
Also we've had problems with the electronic's malfuntioning when it raining hard. One night the pumper went dead in the water responding to a call. It started after sitting for 10-15 minutes.
The only thing we've not had a problem with is the steps, they work perfectly.
Good luck, and keep an eye on the suspension.
03-03-2000, 04:24 PM #7Hammerhead338Firehouse.com Guest
Pikepole, you said that a rep is addjusting something, that stops the doors from poping off the latch, what is he adjusting.
03-05-2000, 04:47 PM #8pikepoleFirehouse.com Guest
They come in and adjust the position of the Nader pin, so that it aligns with the latch mechanism.
03-06-2000, 03:51 PM #9Hammerhead338Firehouse.com Guest
thanks pikepole, Ill let the chief know and maybe we will get it fixed.
03-07-2000, 10:24 PM #10opie5461Firehouse.com Guest
We just bought two 1999 Quantums. One handles differently than the other. We told the Chief about the problem, he didn't believe it until he drove them both. I don't know if the problem is fixed or not since we haven't had them both in service at the same time. We got them both in Nov and have had problems with the radio we bought from Pierce.
03-09-2000, 02:13 PM #11pahoseboyFirehouse.com Guest
We have 1999 quantum that has been in service for about 1 year now, knock on wood we haven't had any problems with it yet. We run approx 200 calls a year. But we will keep our eyes open for the problems that have been posted here. Thnx
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