who is the best fire truck company and why?
is it american la france e-one smeal pierce saulsbury kme or others
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01-22-2001, 04:27 PM #1laddermanFirehouse.com Guest
who is the best fire truck company
01-23-2001, 02:06 AM #2firecadet613Firehouse.com Guest
01-23-2001, 11:35 AM #3ENGINE18-3Firehouse.com Guest
Mack was with the old CF's. But now Pierce or Seagrave.
The statements above are my own opinions
FF Greg Grudzinski
Oaklyn Fire Dept.
01-23-2001, 05:04 PM #486RescuetechFirehouse.com Guest
WOW, this is a touchy subject. In the past, Pierce had the best quality in pumpers, Grumman had the strongest ladder, and Saulsbury made the best Rescue. Now, who knows. One thing I like is a single source company. It takes alot of the hassle out of follow up and warranty work. American LaFrance has come back strong and putting LTI ladders on them doesn't hurt.
01-23-2001, 05:31 PM #5eng10drvrFirehouse.com Guest
01-23-2001, 06:54 PM #6FireOneFirehouse.com Guest
They are all good or they wouldn't be in business. Everyone has a personal preference.
01-23-2001, 07:37 PM #7HHoffmanFirehouse.com Guest
I'll take any but KME. I have worked on most of them with no trouble. KME has always had problems.
Henry C. Hoffman Jr.
01-23-2001, 09:10 PM #8WFD2122Firehouse.com Guest
The best fire truck company is the one that will give you what YOU want, not what they happen to have or need to get rid of. Salesmen will promise you everything, but can they deliver? If you're looking to get a new truck, email me and I'll tell you about writing and rewriting specs four times this year, just to please the bean-counters uptown. Quality has been sacrificed, and we may wind up with something we know will be trouble. Sorry for the editorial, but the "Best" truck is the one built to your standards and expectations. Brand? I, like other postings here, have my favorite. But it's my opinion, and I'll keep it to myself for now.
01-24-2001, 02:01 AM #9Engine 101Firehouse.com Guest
With out a doubt ALF
This is how I rank them
ALF. E-one, Seagrave, Pierce
To bad Mack is not around
01-24-2001, 09:16 AM #10esvfdfirefighterFirehouse.com Guest
01-24-2001, 11:01 AM #11FORT ffFirehouse.com Guest
3. American LaFrance/ Pierce
bit of a tie there, i like them both alot.
Mack Aerialscopes were the greatest trucks, now seagraves is stepping in with Mack's now retiring.
Mack was always and always will be the best.
All my best.
These are my own ideas and opinions and do not reflect the Fort Washington Fire Company in anyway.
01-24-2001, 11:30 AM #12TCFireFirehouse.com Guest
Our Company owns:
1999 ALF/General Safety pumper
1990 Intl/KME pumper
1994 Intl/Marion 14' Walk-In Rescue
So far (15 months) the ALF/General is a real nice truck, very few teething troubles. Quality is good, no major beef's. The extra money for the ALF, so far, has been worth it.
The International chassis' on the other two have been fine, both are 2 doors with no frills.
The Marion rescue has been a good truck, it goes to all calls. Quality is pretty good, only goofy problem has been scene light lens on the side of the box mysteriously popping off and disappearing. It's happened on all four of the lights (2 each side). Marion is scratching their heads on that one.
KME is ok, serves as our hydrant truck/tanker as it carries 1500 gals and has a rear dump. Problem is it should've had rear tandem, its slightly overweight on the back axle and is tough on tires and brakes.
Quality is fair, electrical has had problems, general fit/finish is not as good as the others.
01-24-2001, 12:21 PM #13mike021Firehouse.com Guest
My personal Prefernce is Pierce.
My fav saying....
This is your brain... Pierce
This is your brain on drugs... E-One
01-24-2001, 03:10 PM #14pwc606Firehouse.com Guest
The quality is in the product tested over time. Who has a good product? Look around and see who is selling the most equipment with the highest customer satisfaction. Don't ask the sales rep about quality. He is going to tell you that his product is the best on the market. Talk to the owner/operators.
01-24-2001, 04:43 PM #15laddermanFirehouse.com Guest
i have talked to alot of departments form around the country and i have herd the best from saulsbury and e-one and the a lot of bad things from kme and alf pierce is a good truck too
01-26-2001, 04:55 PM #16EONESUXFirehouse.com Guest
Hmmm! This might be a no-brainer.
2. Quality (seen some good trucks come of their production line.
Might throw General in the mix.
E-one Well! Enough said.
These are my opinions and you can not change them.
01-26-2001, 10:59 PM #17FFCode3EMTFirehouse.com Guest
E One and Seagrave.
**The preceding comments in no way represent the views of my department, its members, or associations that it may belong to.**
01-27-2001, 08:40 AM #18m. roseFirehouse.com Guest
Mack was the best, and pierce right behind. Excellent quality and workmanship with Pierce. "Professional" tradesman in the company are what make Pierce so successful.
01-27-2001, 09:53 AM #19ENGINE 52Firehouse.com Guest
My dept. operates a 1990 Pierce Lance
1984 Pierce Arrow
My choice is Pierce all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!
01-27-2001, 10:46 AM #20HAMMER14Firehouse.com Guest
It all depends on what you are looking for:
Chassis and Engines - Seagrave, Pierce
Squad bodies - Saulsbury
Trucks - Seagrave, LTI, Pierce - This
includes tiller trucks. By the way
are the only way to go, unless it's
Towers - What else.. Baker of course!!
Junk - E-one, KME, new ALF.
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