Thread: BRush unit on a Dodge Ram
02-28-2001, 02:17 PM #1mike021Firehouse.com Guest
BRush unit on a Dodge Ram
Anyone have a brush truck or know of any that are made off a Ram instead of a Ford? I am curious as to who makes these. Thank You
02-28-2001, 06:30 PM #2BratFirehouse.com Guest
Mike, Our VFD has a 99 Dodge and a 95 Ford. Both are 1 tons with gas engines. A neighboring dept. have 2 Dodges. All 3 of the Dodges are flatbeds with 300 gal tanks and 18 HP pumps. Flatbeds work best for our use. We can haul more water but give up some storage space. Ford offers a higher GVW than Dodge but for us the Dodges were cheaper without loosing quality. We are happy so far. All of the trucks are home made with slide in units installed on custom flatbeds.
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02-28-2001, 10:35 PM #3wofd1Firehouse.com Guest
We have an 88 ford f350 4x4 for our brush unit. we purchased it with a flat bed and installed tank & pump ourselves. we choose the ford because of the highest gvw rating (11,000lbs) in the 1 ton class at the time. its a 460 gas which performs well. the problem is you cant stop it, it tips the scales at 10,400 lbs. its been to 3 ford dealers and the factory rep looked at it twice about brakes. you can push pedal to floor anytime you want. the rep said its normal and it stops doesnt it! yeah where and when who knows. will they give us a letter saying thats normal? no way. my advice is dont buy ford! i personnally have there junk and as well as our dept. buy anything but! sorry for the long post! stay safe and ford free!
03-03-2001, 02:21 AM #4Smoke_N_FlamesFirehouse.com Guest
We have two Dodge 3500 Cummins duallys (one has flatbed and 300 gallons and 18HP pumpthe other only has 200 gallons and a regular bed, its has not been converted yet.) are our two light brush rigs. We love them. Both are short cabs, but I would like to see our next brush truck have an extended cab for extra storage. Anyone have an extended cab for a brush/attack truck?
03-03-2001, 06:42 PM #5Ray RFirehouse.com Guest
We have several neighboring departments with Dodges. They all seem to like them.
You might check to see if you can buy the chassis on a state bid. Most states bid all kinds of vehicles, and other supplies on a yearly basis. If you can buy through the state bid you will save quite a bit. We recently priced a F-450 and it was about $3000.00 dollars cheaper through the state bid. The downside is that we will have to make a 600 mile round trip to pick it up but it still saves a lot of money.
03-06-2001, 05:50 AM #6chf jstanoFirehouse.com Guest
We just finished putting together such a unit.After looking at the major manufacturers,we decided we could do it as well for less money and are very satisfied with the result.The truck was purchased state bid and pump,lights,tank,etc,were obtained from various suppliers.We then contracted with a local apparatus refurbishing company and they put it all together.
It's a 2001 Dodge Ram 4X4 dually,diesal,automatic,utility box,3 ton Warn winch,450gpm pump and roll,200gal tank,2 crosslays,1" forestry outlets on rear,2500w generator, 4 telescoping nite-lighters,and foam pro-packs.It's well within the GVW ratings,handles like a dream, and has power to spare.Overall, a versitile vehicle that will serve our needs for years to come.
03-06-2001, 11:06 PM #7chf jstanoFirehouse.com Guest
If you'd like to see the finished product go to the "apparatus showcase" under December 5,2000. Dexter Fire Dept.
03-08-2001, 12:02 AM #8jhillFirehouse.com Guest
We bought our last truck thru state bid and ended up with a Chevrolet HD3500 with a diesel engine. That 6.5 diesel don't hunt.
Does fine for running medicals with EMS thou. Did have a few problems that took the Chev two wks to fix. TWICE !!!!!The city got two Chevrolets at that time. Everything else since has been a Dodge with a V-10 or diesel for other city depts.
03-08-2001, 09:16 AM #9N2DFireFirehouse.com Guest
Virtually any apparatus builder can build your brush unit on what ever make & model chassis you prefer.
A couple of exceptions are :
Pump drive system
Some smaller (1 1/2 Ton and less) trucks lack the ability to drive a PTO Pump (or the Chassis Mfg will not permit / warrant this modification). A slide-in or skid system will eliminate this problem if that is the issue with your desired chassis.
Like it or not, all trucks are not created equal. Even with-in the same class of truck, 1 brand will have a heavier GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) and a heavier Hauling / Cargo Capacity (This is why you see more Fords than other trucks. Unless things have changed in the past few model years, Ford has the Highest GVWR/Payload capacity in it's class).
There are probably more items than this, but these are a couple of major one off the top of my head. If you plan to use a skid set-up & the weight of your Pump/Tank/Hose/equipment/etc. doesn't exceed the capacity rating then you should be O.K.
I'll refrain from giving great detail on building a truck, but if you have further questions or would like to talk "in-depth" please feel free to email me at email@example.com
Take Care - Stay Safe
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03-11-2001, 12:32 AM #10ParafiremedicFirehouse.com Guest
Just a few FYI's on this subject. Someone asked about extended cabs as brush trucks. The added storage space is nice, but you stand a better chance of high siding them compared to storter wheel based single cab. Single cabs are also more manuverable, with a smaller turning radious. As for stopping power, any diesel with a turbo can be fitted with a turbo (Jake) brake for around $500. This uses the engine to assist the braking, rather that the brakes doing everything.
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