Thread: E-One Basket 95ft.
04-05-2001, 12:04 AM #1John Berryman Jr.Firehouse.com Guest
E-One Basket 95ft.
Have heard all the good things about these units are there any bad things about the E-One 95ft. Basket truck???(no pump)Please no salesmen just the facts..Thanking you all in advance.
04-06-2001, 02:33 AM #2STATION2Firehouse.com Guest
Just took delivery of ours which is set up as a quint (Only to supply itself). I let you know in a few months if you like. So far with training its been perfect. 2 monitors in the platform and 2 deck guns with 2 crosslays and a front trash line. It'll go to war with the best of them. Be safe.
04-07-2001, 04:24 PM #3rcorletoFirehouse.com Guest
I'm not sure if this still holds true, but as of a couple of years ago E-One was the ONLY manufacturer never to have any aerial ladder of any type overturn while in use. Most tipovers are caused by operator error anyway, but they have had none at all-operator error or due to failure. I'm not on a truck company but that would be reassuring to know if I was.
04-07-2001, 10:17 PM #451Truck_KFirehouse.com Guest
E-One is a sturdy truck, not as beefy as an Aerialscope, but then again it has a taversable ladderway...However, I know of a Career FD that has such a creature and has experienced nothing but trouble with it. Even as far as looking into replacing the bucket! (15,000!!!!!$$$$$) It seems that the bucket would lose it's juice (hydro fluid)and the bucket would sag infront of the cab!Add numerous other problems and take into concern E-One's lack of assitance..Buy A 'Scope!.....E-One needs to make a mid-mount!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04-08-2001, 01:17 AM #5STATION2Firehouse.com Guest
I'm not gonna bite on the "scope" comment. E-One does make a mid-mount andI would put it up against any aerialscope made. Be safe.
04-08-2001, 11:20 PM #6Resq14Firehouse.com Guest
On the E-One 95-footer we just took delivery of, my big gripe is the silly handrails on the platform.
Rather than using something like a self-closing ManSaver bar, they have these telescoping portions of the handrail which you're supposed to raise up and hold as you exit through the door. More often than not, they come crashing down and hit you, or get stuck between your helmet and SCBA tank. They sure do hurt when that happens. Yeah, they say you're not supposed to let go of them as you pass under, but that's sometimes easier said than done.
E-One said it was some type of requirement that there be a contiguous safety rail surrounding the platform, so that mansaver bars weren't acceptable. In other words, we couldn't spec anything different. We noticed these when we played with a demo truck, and tried to spec something different. But in the long run, it's probably not that big of a deal.
One thing we could've spec'd different is to have a visual display which indicated:
-kwick-raze lights extended
-pump platform open
-which door is ajar (graphic display)
-which compartment is ajar (graphic display)
Currently, these are all tied into a single, red blinking "Door Ajar" light. It'd be much easier to see exactly what is amiss so you don't have to go and touch everything that opens/closes to make the "door ajar" light go out. Again, that was an oversight on our part probably.
I can't complain about the operation of the truck itself. It is great... a huge improvement over the early 80's Peter Pirsch 100' lightweight aluminum ladder we've been using (which, btw, is for sale...)
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04-13-2001, 09:18 AM #7USAR29Firehouse.com Guest
I don't have a lot of experience with the 95' Platform, but have quite a bit of experience with E-One aerials in general... My station currently operates a 1982 E-One 110' Aerial. The underslung criss-cross jacks on an E-One are unbeatable by anything else on the market. They have the shortest jack spread in the industry and the best part is that they CANNOT be short jacked (of course you don't need to shortjack them, because fully extended they are about the same jack spread as their competitors in the short jacked mode.) This is probably the largest contributing factor in that E-One has never experienced a tipover, which are mostly caused by operator error. If tight streets are a problem in your area, I'd highly recommend the E-One because of their narrow jacking.
One other plus for the E-One aerials is that they offer a significantly larger amount of compartment space. This is the result of E-One aerials using an integral frame as opposed to a "bolt on" torque box like their competitors. The E-One compartments are deeper, and there are more (They even have low-side compartments above each of the jacks, which gives you 4 more USEABLE compartments over most competitors, and they are deep enough to be used for such things as a smoke ejector.!
04-14-2001, 11:56 PM #8grc063Firehouse.com Guest
Does anyone have any information on the new mid-mount tower??? Was on the E-One web site about two weeks ago and their is nothing mentioned.
04-15-2001, 07:22 PM #951Truck_KFirehouse.com Guest
Yup, hafta agree....nothing on the E-ONE site in reference to a new mid mount...Nuttin'...I even e-mailed a rep, with no reply...what's the dilly-o?
04-15-2001, 10:15 PM #10STATION2Firehouse.com Guest
We did our final inspection on our 95' Tower about 2 months ago. At the same time there was a "meeting" going on with the sales reps. I know from speaking with one for our area that there is such a tower. Four (4) have already been sold before the demo even got off the line. Its a five (5) section aerial which allows for a shorter overall length. It will outperfrom the Pierce, Sutphen, KME, Aerialscope and LTI mid-mount tower. Trust me on this. It has a modified outrigger system that is like a hybrid using the underslung design they use on their rear mounts and also the Sutphens style under the cab. When I find out more I'll pass it along. Be safe.
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04-16-2001, 01:28 AM #11LHS*Firehouse.com Guest
Pretty sure it is a 4 section. At least that is what my drawing shows.
04-16-2001, 01:59 PM #1251Truck_KFirehouse.com Guest
What drwawing....don't be a hog, share the goods K
04-16-2001, 02:35 PM #13LHS*Firehouse.com Guest
call your dealer and ask for one.
04-16-2001, 03:16 PM #14STATION2Firehouse.com Guest
LHS is correct, I just saw it myself and it is a 4 section aerial. How have you been LHS? Come see the tower when your down here. Be safe.
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04-16-2001, 04:42 PM #15laddermanFirehouse.com Guest
I know a lot about the new E-one mid-mount
it will out perform any other mid-mout out there trust me i know a demo will be off the line very soon some depts have already bought them
04-17-2001, 12:14 PM #1651Truck_KFirehouse.com Guest
Are we talking an honest to goodness mid mount tower ladder, or are you all referring to a Bronto Sky-Lift on an E-One chassis?
04-17-2001, 01:11 PM #17LHS*Firehouse.com Guest
A C2 chassis, regular E-Onr 95 foot tower. Underslung jacks, nice hose bed, I think it is 45 feet long.
04-18-2001, 10:57 AM #18STATION2Firehouse.com Guest
In addition, the options for a quint set-up (Pump/Tank) is available. Let me clarify this perhaps. Picture a Pierce mid-mount tower. Got that picture? Now envision it being able to do what they say it can do. Got all that? Now factor in an aerial that CAN do everything. Got that? Thats an E-One midmount tower. Be safe.
P.S.: If we were discussing a Bronto, it would be called a Bronto. If you want a Bronto on an E-One chassis talk to Tulsa, OK.
04-21-2001, 12:18 AM #19laddermanFirehouse.com Guest
The following list is of large or high profile departments
which have E-One aerials in service
This is not a complete list. Many other departments
also use E-One aerials
Sierra Vista AZ
Buena Park CA
Chevron Refinery CA
Costa Mesa CA
Huntington Beach CA
Orange County CA
Riverside County CA
Santa Fe Springs CA
Colorado Springs CO
Grand Junction CO
West Hartford CT
Ft. Lauderdale FL
Hillborough County FL
Kennedy Space Center FL
Orange County FL
Palm Beach FL
Seminole County FL
St Petersburg FL
Fulton County GA
Oak Brook IL
Ft Wayne IN
Kansas City KS
Overland Park KS
Anne Arundel County MD
Baltimore County MD
Ann Arbor MI
Auburn Hills MI
Grand Rapids MI
St. Paul MN
Kansas City MO
St. Louis MO
Jersey City NJ
Benalilo County NM
Santa Fe NM
Clark County NV
East Syracuse NY
Cleveland Heights OH
Cuyahoga Falls OH
Oklahoma City OK
Hilton Head SC
Corpus Christi TX
San Antonio TX
New Berlin WI
West Bend WI
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