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    Our department is working towards purchasing a mini-pumper early next year to assist in providing first response fire/ems coverage in the mold of Johnny and Roy. We are looking for a 4-door cab with a 200-250 gallon tank, 400gpm pump, temperature controlled compartments for our ALS equipment. Does anyone have a similar vehicle or any ideas on specs? Your input is greatly appreciated.


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    We operate a mini-pumper, and are in an area with a couple of them. Ours is a 2-door with a 250 gpm pump and 300 gal tank. However, we don't carry ALS.

    I don't know your manning requirements or how you would want to run it, but how about a 2-door extended cab, with the ALS gear in the extension, which could be made into a regular compartment. That will shorten your overall length a little, a plus if you've got congested and/or narrow streets.

    Also, I'd think about kicking your pump up to 500 gpm, and then run class A foam or CAFS (if it's within your price range) with your tank water. It'll go farther.

    I'm just throwing out ideas; hope they help.

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    Did you think of using a small freightliner chassis (FL50 or FL60). They are maybe a bit bigger than a f-550, but they are much more powerful and can carry more stuff. They also can operate bigger pumps .

    Actually, the fire departement near where i am, operates with a full mini-pumper system, even if they don't carry als you can see some of the advantages : they are quicker, more manouevrable and can go offroad.

    <br />Even with the bigger chassis (they bought 3 freightliners and 2 others are on order) they still can operate in very tight streets and alley ways. Oh, i forgot they operate a cafs !!!

    just my 2 cents ... (US 1,3 cents !!!)

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    Check out Summit Fire Apparatus at: <a href="http://www.summitfireapparatus.com/" target="_blank">http://www.summitfireapparatus.com/</a> as they build some nice quality mini's. I don't know if the rig is still in service there, but Ottawa Hills did have a Ford-Summit mini in service.

    The Edgewood F.D. has a newer Summit mini in service with specs similar to what you are looking for. There is a picture of the rig posted in the Photo Post section at the web site Rescue-Net. Visit Rescue-Net at: <a href="http://www.rescue-net.com/" target="_blank">http://www.rescue-net.com/</a> and then look for Edgewood Engine 153 (posted 10-18-01).

    Good luck!

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    PFD109NFD107, what a coincidence. My deparment is doing the same thing right now. I just went and did a search for "mini pumper" and got all kinds of stuff. Some of the sites have general specs, others you have to email......

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    Wow that is a coincidence!!!

    by the way change your e-mail on your profile!!

    [ 12-09-2001: Message edited by: PFD109NFD107 ]</p>

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    Dear Chief nfd100.5<br />I suggest that maybe you should look into what we do in our town......... dont use such sissy ideas ! I mean who has brush fires anymore anyway ? Or due to budgets is that the only truck you can afford ? At any rate use a larger pumper if you are that short on manpower.that way everything you will ever need will be right there with you !!!! <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">
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    ATTENTION ALL SHOPPERS: Will the dead horse please report to the forums.(thanks Motown)
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    I'm sorry, I haven't been paying much attention for the last 3 hours.....what were we discussing?
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    http://www.firehouse.com/forums/show...60#post1137060post 115

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    Thanks for the advice 200 & 13/16

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    Around here a lot of people get their trucks from 4 Guys. And if you want quality, thats what they produce. They built a nice mini for Frewsbug FD. They don't have thiers up on their site anymore but they do have some nice ones. goto <a href="http://www.4guysfire.com" target="_blank">www.4guysfire. com</a> they hav awesome stuff. Infact ever truck we have purchased has been from 4 guys, if we bought it new.

    Wait a minute there Josh. Don't you ever make a comment like who ever has brush fires anymore anyways? We had 25 acres burning not too long ago. Infact, during the summer we are always running to fields on fire. So don't make a genrealized comment like that ever again. Just because you don't have them don't mean other people don't. I do and I am in Western new York baby by the Pa line. So watch it or I am coming after ya.

    [ 12-09-2001: Message edited by: Mitch ]</p>

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    Dearest Mitchell,<br />I am very happy you defended your post on the suburban wildland interface issue. Myself and the primary poster here are on departments right next to each other and I was merely "busting his B**ls". So I meant no harm to you forest, grass, brush, shrubs, and so forth firefighters. Later ........love you both !! <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

    PS-Joel that was a most funny reply to my previous post !!!!! I laughed alot ! Good luck in your search ....

    [ 12-09-2001: Message edited by: Josh Drouard ]</p>
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    That you Mr. Joshua. By the way my b**ls are a bit sore. KQH503 or something like that

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    I'm not sure where your located but you should check out a small apparatus manufacture named KENCO Fabricating Company Inc. They are located in western Pennsylvania south east of Pittsburg. They build totally custom, high quality units and because they are a small operation their pricing is still competitive. A few years ago they built two units and featured them at the PA Fire Expo. One unit had a pump, water tank, and hose bed while the other was a rescue type unit compartment body. After featuring these two units at that show they built numerous similar units. Their web site hasn't been updated lately but some of these units are pictured on it.<br />I think the site is <a href="http://www.kencofabricating.com" target="_blank">http://www.kencofabricating.com</a> <br />If that doesn't work look under the directory in this site or in firetrucks.com. In fire house they are listed under refurbishing which is how they got started in the fire apparatus business. In firetrucks.com they are listed under manufatcures and the letter K. I'm pretty sure they have an email address on the web site also.<br />They build approximately 20 new units a year plus do refurbishing work and other work on fire apparatus. All of the units are completely custom! They build a super strong aluminum body and also offer a great stainless steel body. They will sit down with you and design you a unit based on what you want. If there is any way it can be done then they can do it. Check them out and let me know how you make out. Take care and be safe. FGN. <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

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    If you are looking for quality, you want 4 Guys equipment. They use ntohing but stainless steel for body construction. Sure, its a little heavier, but it will last a lot longer and its a lot betterin many ways. We have been getting a lot of our trucks through 4 Guys. When we buy something that is. We currently use 2 4 Guys equipemt, our tanker, and pumper. You can see them both at our website. <a href="http://www.randolphfire.org" target="_blank">www.randolphfi re.org</a> and I strongly suggest you visit <a href="http://www.4guysfire.com" target="_blank">www.4guysfire. com</a> they have very ncie equipment and it will last for a long time. And possibly out live you. <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
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