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    Default INITAL ATTACK "IA"

    LOOK THIS IS A STUPID QUESTION, BUT I NEED INPUT.

    YOU ARE CALLED TO A FIRE. YOU GET THERE, YOU SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. NO NATURAL BARRERS TO USE AS A ANCHOR POINT. YOU SEE HOW THE FIRE IS MOVING, YOU DECIDE TO DRIVE TOWARD IT AND FLANK IT. IS THAT SAFE?? SHOULD YOU TAKE THE 20 MIN OR 10 MIN TO GET TO THE BACK AND FLANK IT FROM BEHIND ?? IM A NEW ENGINE BOSS AND WELL I NEED INPUT !!! SORRY TO SOUND SO STUPID, BUT BEING IN THE WILDLAND FOR 2 YEARS I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS... ?????

    THANKS, BRENT

    [ 08-15-2001: Message edited by: caza_28 ]

    [ 08-15-2001: Message edited by: caza_28 ]

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    Brent-when in doubt, take the extra time! Never compromise safety. If your size-up indicates that anchor points are non-existant, another option might be indirect attack. If you are going to flank the fire, by all means begin from the heel.
    At all costs, avoid putting your engine in a position where your fire might kick up and flank you from behind. None of us want to become a story on the evening news.
    Remember your fire orders, and good luck!

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    We mainly have grass fires. We start at the heel and run down the flanks to the head. If we have enough trucks, we will send some to the head to try to cut it off. ALWAYS FIGHTING FROM THE BLACK, if at all possible.

    Stay safe.

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    well thanks for the info. if in doubt take the extra time. well do. thanks, brent

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    Hit the head.To make a good stop try to get to the head first. We use a brush truck with 1 in booster and 3/4 in garden hose. One man with a garden hose can attack and hold a brush fire till a booster or 1 1/2 can be strecthed. We are located in the Poconos of PA and during spring and fall brush fire season we keep class A wetting agent in the booster tank of our brush truck

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    If it takes extra time to get to the heal of the fire your terrain or fuels are keeping you from traveling quickly. Consequently you have no escape route. There are a couple of basics here, the anchor, the blackline, zone of safety, and short escape route that would be all yours if you begin at the heal, create your anchor, and proceed on the flank. Houses arn't worth the extra risk. We saw people taking that extra risk a week ago, and two entrapments occurred. Stay basic, stay safe and effective.

    [ 08-25-2001: Message edited by: monte ]

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